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Skye629 2015-07-31 17:58

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Rising Dragon 2015-07-31 18:15

Dat G-Self.

Patriot's Blade 2015-07-31 23:23

i think i can hear flamenco music just looking at Red Warrior's box art alone :heh:

GN0010 Nosferatu 2015-08-01 10:41

Doesn't Gundam Leopard have opening chest gatling guns? I haven't seen the Da Vinci model exhibit that. Was it removed in the model kit from the show?

Skye629 2015-08-02 05:02

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Originally Posted by GN0010 Nosferatu (Post 5609348)
Doesn't Gundam Leopard have opening chest gatling guns? I haven't seen the Da Vinci model exhibit that. Was it removed in the model kit from the show?

It was never shown in the show or any of the model appearances so far in the hobby shows. I would assume though that its present in the model, or at the very least it has a design which Bandai can add/swap some parts to incorporate it. Since more likely than not this is the base for a HGAW Leopard/Leopard Destroy

wavehawk 2015-08-02 05:14

The Da Vinci's chest design is different from the stock Gundam Leopard, so it'll most likely not be a feature on the Da Vinci version.

Also, don't get your hopes up too high. While I liked putting the HGUC Ez-8 together, my biggest gripes with it were that: 1.) you couldn't slide out the chest armor like the old 1/.144 kit and 2.) the shoulder hinges for the parachute straps were fixed unlike the old 1/144 kit.

So if they put out a normal HGAW Gundam Leopard with no chest gatlings I'd be annoyed but certainly not surprised.

Patriot's Blade 2015-08-04 07:36

in an attempt at modding, i 'd like to hear an opinion from members here on the size ratio of the HGUC Sazabi's head unit, for in universe accuracy, do you consider it too small for it to even fit Char's spherical psychic throne of doom? compared to a Zeong's or Psyco Gundam's head cockpits? i don't own a Rick Dias who also has a head cockpit for a comparison by the way.

Skye629 2015-08-04 20:05

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Originally Posted by DRAGUN H.E.X. (Post 5611801)
in an attempt at modding, i 'd like to hear an opinion from members here on the size ratio of the HGUC Sazabi's head unit, for in universe accuracy, do you consider it too small for it to even fit Char's spherical psychic throne of doom? compared to a Zeong's or Psyco Gundam's head cockpits? i don't own a Rick Dias who also has a head cockpit for a comparison by the way.

So just to be clear, you are trying to mod a sphere cockpit into the HGUC Sazabi's head?

What are you doing with it? Just the ball and close the head over it? Head and cockpit open diorama/display?



On the kit itself (which I own and have built), the head is smaller than the old school art/model kits for it to be more modern/good looking

This is what you have to work with (Image via google image search, I put the link since the image is so big):

http://www.hobbyhovel.com/wp-content...Sazabi-013.jpg

You have to somehow cut off the top tube(?, has to be only the top part too I believe, the lower part I think is what connects the head to the neck joint) section that the monoeye piece rotates around, and install a ball cockpit of the same diameter

Blazer-X 2015-08-05 23:15

MG Jesta Cannon... P-Bandai...

NO! NO! NO! NO! NOOOOOOOOOO!

http://gundamguy.blogspot.com/2015/0...ta-cannon.html

wavehawk 2015-08-06 04:56

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Originally Posted by blazer-x (Post 5613270)
mg jesta cannon... P-bandai...

f. M. L.
god
dammit
bandai

Obelisk ze Tormentor 2015-08-06 06:55

MG Jesta Cannon exclusive...... :sad:

Well, just like MG Hyaku Shiki’s Bazooka Launcher, many of us already saw this coming from miles away, so we have prepared our hearts (and wallets) when the eventuality comes.

Though, I don’t really know how to see this phenomenon. Is this slow-but-sure increasing trend of exclusive kits an indication that Gunpla is no longer as popular as in the old times and Bandai can’t afford to mass release a wide variety of kits anymore, or Bandai just realized that Online Exclusive is a fucking great cow to milk so much that they even make brand new molds for it? Or can it be both?

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Originally Posted by wavehawk (Post 5613425)
f. M. L.
god
dammit
bandai

Well, if OE stuffs too expensive, we can always wait for the third party product release of those "Cannon" parts. They're getting better at copying Bandai and in some places even improve Bandai products (eg. making HG Age Spallow's knife an actual clear green instead of Bandai's solid plastic wrapped in metallic sticker).

Sworra 2015-08-06 09:55

I almost had a heart attack! Why do you have to be so difficult Bandai. Making the MG Jesta Cannon an exclusive. I should go over there and knock people's heads together. If everyone petitions at Bandai I bet they will make it a regular release. But I can only dream. lol Well I might as well buy two, thanks Bandai. My wallet is crying!!!

Skye629 2015-08-06 23:01

DX Godammit, o well guess I going to get it anyways......



EDIT: NVM the place where I get all my exclusive stuff is asking for a price thats a bit above what Im willing to pay for a Jesta Cannon, owell money saved I guess

StrikeFreedomV2 2015-08-07 16:14

To those interested in getting the Robot Damashii Freedom Gundam, here is a review

http://gundamguy.blogspot.de/2015/08...undam.html?m=1

Please take a look on the face. Its totally messed up IMHO and I won't be getting it until it (hopefully) gets re-released without that face. Otherwise it seems to be perfect. It's a shame :(

Obelisk ze Tormentor 2015-08-07 19:47

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Originally Posted by StrikeFreedomV2 (Post 5614947)
To those interested in getting the Robot Damashii Freedom Gundam, here is a review

http://gundamguy.blogspot.de/2015/08...undam.html?m=1

Please take a look on the face. Its totally messed up IMHO and I won't be getting it until it (hopefully) gets re-released without that face. Otherwise it seems to be perfect. It's a shame :(

Eh, imo itís not that bad. Itís more or less close to MB Freedomís face, and I think itís even better than RG Freedomís face with the huge air-vents that filled the majority of its mouth-piece. Well, the MG Freedomís face is still the best though.

wavehawk 2015-08-08 08:27

Not sure if this fits here or the Ridiculous image thread...
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.n...aea2fc704ad0fc

Patriot's Blade 2015-08-08 10:03

there is no articulated Gundam Rasiel for purchase other than the statue that is the FG 1/144 kit right? unless i am fooled by an average joe/jane who manages to do a scratch build conversion on par with Bandai's & their hobby mags in house modelers level who did make an articulated Gundam Rasiel scratch build conversion, unless that was the same person they hired.

Skye629 2015-08-08 18:20

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Originally Posted by DRAGUN H.E.X. (Post 5615678)
there is no articulated Gundam Rasiel for purchase other than the statue that is the FG 1/144 kit right? unless i am fooled by an average joe/jane who manages to do a scratch build conversion on par with Bandai's & their hobby mags in house modelers level who did make an articulated Gundam Rasiel scratch build conversion, unless that was the same person they hired.

You are correct, the only version is the one from the Hobby Magazine

wavehawk 2015-08-08 20:32

And the Dengeki Magazine that Rasiel comes with has instructions on how to add articulation to it. You'll just need to sacrifice an HG Dynames for some of the leg parts and some extra polycaps. I kind of ruined mine by sawing through all of the wrogn parts--don't ask.

Chibiloli 2015-08-09 02:29

Well since I had recently gotten the set, might as well ask here, aside from the Radome Yo-Yo, the scissor swords and the nipper shield, how exactly does the railgun and the spray gun work? I know how a railgun works but like how does this particular one work? I see two spikes on the front and I assume from the lack of a visible magazine that its a one shot weapon, and as for the spray gun, I have no idea, it uses canisters so I assume it sprays paint?

wavehawk 2015-08-09 04:08

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Originally Posted by Chibiloli (Post 5616380)
Radome Yo-Yo
scissor swords
nipper shield,
railgun
spray gun

- Dynamic tag cannot be rendered. (PrintableThread)
...Uhm, are we talking about the same kit here?

Chibiloli 2015-08-09 05:47

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Originally Posted by wavehawk (Post 5616451)
- Dynamic tag cannot be rendered. (PrintableThread)
...Uhm, are we talking about the same kit here?

Ah, no, I probably should have mentioned it was the Hyper Gunpla battle weapons set I got, sorry for the Confucius.

Chibiloli 2015-08-12 07:42

Okay, does anybody here know a set I can cannibalize for hands? The Jigen Build Knuckle set doesn't come out for a while and I wanna arm my Vrabe Gundam with some HGBC weapons but they don't fit in its hands.

Chibiloli 2015-08-13 00:19

anybody here know if White Base in Maharlika is still open? I'm planning on sending a courier there to get me a Portent Gundam and I can't find any mention of it on the Internet.

Chiu_fan 2015-08-13 08:33

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Originally Posted by Chibiloli (Post 5620184)
anybody here know if White Base in Maharlika is still open? I'm planning on sending a courier there to get me a Portent Gundam and I can't find any mention of it on the Internet.

It's open everyday, usually from 1:30pm-6/7:00pm.

Skye629 2015-08-19 03:49

Dayum, these new SD's got some really nice stylish packaging

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-pENoc9EzbL...U/s1600/14.jpg

Chibiloli 2015-08-19 05:52

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Originally Posted by Chiu_fan (Post 5620472)
It's open everyday, usually from 1:30pm-6/7:00pm.

Mind giving me the complete address of the place?

Blue-kun 2015-08-19 18:11

Anyone here grabbed the HGCE Freedom Revive? Been looking for opinions on the kit. I feel like putting together some gunpla, and the reasonable thing right now in my mind would be to buy the HGUC Unicorn Destroy, as I already own the RG Freedom, but... yeah, it's been calling out to me and I'm more and more inclined to just get it, haha. It seems like it's pretty nice aside from the red sticker on the cannons, and should be more easily posable than the RG, where I really don't like to mess around with too much cause parts fall everywhere etc.

X207 2015-08-20 12:47

i have a question regarding models though its slightly off topic. i just finished watching Muv Luv Total Eclipse. the SU47E is a very cool design. i did a quick search on it and noticed theres 2 versions of it, a PVC kit which is likely already built and painted with a joint system different from Bandai's Gundams. apparently theres a plastic version of the SU47E with poly caps also. i wouldnt mind the plastic poly cap version if possible but id rather have a kit that can be built rather than being prebuilt model. for some reason i feel its a line where glue might be needed.

my questions are: whats the main difference between Muv Luv model lines plastic or PVC to Bandai's Gundams as far as construction of model design? are some kits out there to be built much like any Gundam kit out there? im guessing such Muv Luv kits are generally available where you can find Gundam kits or anime related stores.

on a Gundam related question. has the full saber kit for the Quanta been discontinued? i got it along with the magazine so i can add the extra weapons to my 144 Quanta.
i dont have an extra model kit that i can put it onto atm but i know it can match up to a few se2 gundam 00 kits, O gundam, Masakado, Harute among others.

Skye629 2015-08-20 16:13

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Skye629 2015-08-20 16:15

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Originally Posted by X207 (Post 5627268)
i have a question regarding models though its slightly off topic. i just finished watching Muv Luv Total Eclipse. the SU47E is a very cool design. i did a quick search on it and noticed theres 2 versions of it, a PVC kit which is likely already built and painted with a joint system different from Bandai's Gundams. apparently theres a plastic version of the SU47E with poly caps also. i wouldnt mind the plastic poly cap version if possible but id rather have a kit that can be built rather than being prebuilt model. for some reason i feel its a line where glue might be needed.

my questions are: whats the main difference between Muv Luv model lines plastic or PVC to Bandai's Gundams as far as construction of model design? are some kits out there to be built much like any Gundam kit out there? im guessing such Muv Luv kits are generally available where you can find Gundam kits or anime related stores.

on a Gundam related question. has the full saber kit for the Quanta been discontinued? i got it along with the magazine so i can add the extra weapons to my 144 Quanta.
i dont have an extra model kit that i can put it onto atm but i know it can match up to a few se2 gundam 00 kits, O gundam, Masakado, Harute among others.

Not sure about Muv Luv kits, are they made by Bandai? If so then they are probably pretty similar in plastic quality and design (how you put them together)

Discontinued, only way to get afaik is through places like ebay

Chibiloli 2015-08-20 17:20

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Originally Posted by Skye629 (Post 5627359)
Not sure about Muv Luv kits, are they made by Bandai? If so then they are probably pretty similar in plastic quality and design (how you put them together)

Discontinued, only way to get afaik is through places like ebay

The Model kits you can assemble are made by Kotobukiya, but be aware that Kotobukiya TSFs (like any other model kits) are unassembled and unpainted. You'll get something like this out of the box (w/o painting, but with waterslide decals for camo):
http://masterfileblog.jp/review/2013/06/05/3998.html

Here's a comparison to your regular HGUC to Yui's Takemi:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ps324eb1d3.jpg

X207 2015-08-20 21:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skye629 (Post 5627359)
Not sure about Muv Luv kits, are they made by Bandai? If so then they are probably pretty similar in plastic quality and design (how you put them together)

Discontinued, only way to get afaik is through places like ebay

ty for the reply, i wasnt expecting too much difference in the quality between both brands.

cant say im surprised about it regarding the full saber kit though it be cool if they made aftermarket kits. i had a good idea that it would be a limited run to begin with. i was tempted to get a SD Quanta back then but they do require some attention to paint properly due to small plastic pieces. it would be cool if the SD Quanta kit had a small full saber kit though i dont think thats the case.

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Originally Posted by Chibiloli (Post 5627405)
The Model kits you can assemble are made by Kotobukiya, but be aware that Kotobukiya TSFs (like any other model kits) are unassembled and unpainted. You'll get something like this out of the box (w/o painting, but with waterslide decals for camo):
http://masterfileblog.jp/review/2013/06/05/3998.html

Here's a comparison to your regular HGUC to Yui's Takemi:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ps324eb1d3.jpg

ty for the reply
lol, something tells me the GM will be entering the mechanics bay very soon due to a scuffle.

so the process of building a TSF is much like any other Gundam? if so, thats fine with me, i like the process of doing that. i also havent touched plastic cement in years so i have a bit of practice to use it. i have trouble (over applying) with smaller pieces ie axles for cars/landing gear. is Kotobukiya a snap on kit or more like the old school plastic cement gundams? i do have a 1/72 SU47 Berkut aircraft thats been on the backburner for atleast 7years, i can blame Gundam kits for that. i have 3 Gundams left to build and hopefully i wont buy too many extra after that. i hope to move it onto the the SU47 aircraft after those Gundams are done.

if possible the SU47E would be a very nice kit to get if i can find one so i can match it up to the aircraft.

Chibiloli 2015-08-20 21:18

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Originally Posted by X207 (Post 5627499)
ty for the reply, i wasnt expecting too much difference in the quality between both brands.

cant say im surprised about it regarding the full saber kit though it be cool if they made aftermarket kits. i had a good idea that it would be a limited run to begin with. i was tempted to get a SD Quanta back then but they do require some attention to paint properly due to small plastic pieces. it would be cool if the SD Quanta kit had a small full saber kit though i dont think thats the case.



ty for the reply
lol, something tells me the GM will be entering the mechanics bay very soon due to a scuffle.

so the process of building a TSF is much like any other Gundam? if so, thats fine with me, i like the process of doing that. i also havent touched plastic cement in years so i have a bit of practice to use it. i have trouble (over applying) with smaller pieces ie axles for cars/landing gear. is Kotobukiya a snap on kit or more like the old school plastic cement gundams? i do have a 1/72 SU47 Berkut aircraft thats been on the backburner for atleast 7years, i can blame Gundam kits for that. i have 3 Gundams left to build and hopefully i wont buy too many extra after that. i hope to move it onto the the SU47 aircraft after those Gundams are done.

if possible the SU47E would be a very nice kit to get if i can find one so i can match it up to the aircraft.

It's a snap on fit, no need for plastic cement, be warned however, TSF Kit's are pricier than your average Gunpla

X207 2015-08-20 22:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chibiloli (Post 5627507)
It's a snap on fit, no need for plastic cement, be warned however, TSF Kit's are pricier than your average Gunpla

ty for the reply, how much pricier are they on average? the most ive paid for a kit was in the $50 range for the 1/100 kits. i dont have the space or desire for PG, MG and slightly larger ones. i prefer to have multiple kits mostly 144, a few 100 and some SD Gundam.

im looking more at select models namely SU47E but i currently have 18 Gundam kits (3 are 1/100, 2 are SDs) the last 3 unbuilt kits are 144 scale. with the su47 aircraft i'll have nearly maxed out display area. the rest of the shelf space is taken to hold the boxes for the current kits.

wavehawk 2015-08-21 06:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chibiloli (Post 5627405)
Here's a comparison to your regular HGUC to Yui's Takemi:

- :eyebrow: And it had to be my pic? Of all pics online, mine? ...am I the only guy on the internet that builds both Gunpla and Koto kits?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skye629
Not sure about Muv Luv kits, are they made by Bandai? If so then they are probably pretty similar in plastic quality and design (how you put them together)

- Kotobukiya. If you've ever built an HMM Zoids, Virtual On or Armored Core kit, Kotobukiya makes those. The 1/144 Muv Luv kits are less complex than the Zoids or Armored Core kits but are a little bit more part-heavy than most HGUC kits. The Koto 1/144 Muv-Luv kits use PS and ABS plastic for the frames and PE plastic for the polycap joints like Bandai's Gunpla.

Quote:

Originally Posted by X207
so the process of building a TSF is much like any other Gundam?

- Yes and no. Most HG kits (especially the G-Reco and AGE kits) are simple and you can possibly work out how to assemble a kit even without an instruction manual. You'll have to pay closer attention to the instructions on the Koto kits and be a lot more careful with cutting parts off the sprue as the fit tolerances are less forgiving.

Quote:

how much pricier are they on average?
- Depends where you get them, but remember two things: Kotobukiya doesn't have the economies of scale that Bandai has (won't discuss that here, Google it). Bandai being bigger and having a much larger market share than Koto means that they can sell an HG 1/144 kit for as low as 800 Yen. Granted, these are simple HG kits that don't have as many parts as a 1/144 TSF, so a better comparison (box and size wise) would be an HGUC Char's Counterattack or Unicorn kit: 1530-2380 yen

By comparison, a 1/144 TSF can cost between 2800-3400 yen. Which is why most guys I know prefer to get the bigger nonscale TSFs (just 1000 yen more). Also, Koto's ML kits have a very limited run.

Obelisk ze Tormentor 2015-08-21 06:57

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Originally Posted by wavehawk (Post 5627817)
- :eyebrow: And it had to be my pic? Of all pic,s mine?

...am I the only guy on the internet that builds both Gunpla and Koto kits?

I don't know about the internet, but here in my neighborhood, it's hard to find a modeler of Kotobukiya's Muv-Luv kits. Most of the builders who I asked about it don't like the quality and price of the Muv-Luv K-kits. You'll have better luck finding those who build Zoids & Digimon plamo than Takemikazuchi and co.

Chibiloli 2015-08-21 07:56

@wavehawk, it was the only pic I can find on such short notice, Google isn't very helpful in giving me any pics of a TSF and MS together.

Due to my sense of Nostalgia, I am looking for two particular kits and I'm wondering if they still make them, a 1/144 Tallgeese and Zaku Gunner Lunamaria custom.

wavehawk 2015-08-21 09:15

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Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor (Post 5627827)
I don't know about the internet, but here in my neighborhood, it's hard to find a modeler of Kotobukiya's Muv-Luv kits. Most of the builders who I asked about it don't like the quality and price of the Muv-Luv K-kits. You'll have better luck finding those who build Zoids & Digimon plamo than Takemikazuchi and co.

- Part of the issue is the design of TSFs themselves. Gunpla usually tend to be easy to put together and mod because of their blocky build. Most people who buy the TSF kits are those who actually like the designs to begin with (like myself). Since they're a bit more on the curvy and stylized side TSFs are a little harder to translate into kit form.

Also note: Koto's been putting out the nonscale TSFs for awhile but only put out 1/144 versions when Total Eclipse started showing. I haven't built any of the nonscales but friends tell me that they're a lot better thought out than the 1/144 versions. We'll see--I'm tempted to buy an unbuilt nonscale Takemi Type 00R from someone in Brisbane.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chibiloli (Post 5627862)
Due to my sense of Nostalgia, I am looking for two particular kits and I'm wondering if they still make them, a 1/144 Tallgeese and Zaku Gunner Lunamaria custom.

- I think Bandai rereleased the old 1/144 Tallgeese III sometime back around the same time when the RG Wing Zero came out, so you might be able to pick one up.

Lunamaria Zaku, doubtful. I can't find any Seed Destiny kits save for some pleaces with really old stock.

X207 2015-08-21 13:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by wavehawk (Post 5627817)
- :eyebrow: And it had to be my pic? Of all pics online, mine? ...am I the only guy on the internet that builds both Gunpla and Koto kits?

- Kotobukiya. If you've ever built an HMM Zoids, Virtual On or Armored Core kit, Kotobukiya makes those. The 1/144 Muv Luv kits are less complex than the Zoids or Armored Core kits but are a little bit more part-heavy than most HGUC kits. The Koto 1/144 Muv-Luv kits use PS and ABS plastic for the frames and PE plastic for the polycap joints like Bandai's Gunpla.

- Yes and no. Most HG kits (especially the G-Reco and AGE kits) are simple and you can possibly work out how to assemble a kit even without an instruction manual. You'll have to pay closer attention to the instructions on the Koto kits and be a lot more careful with cutting parts off the sprue as the fit tolerances are less forgiving.

- Depends where you get them, but remember two things: Kotobukiya doesn't have the economies of scale that Bandai has (won't discuss that here, Google it). Bandai being bigger and having a much larger market share than Koto means that they can sell an HG 1/144 kit for as low as 800 Yen. Granted, these are simple HG kits that don't have as many parts as a 1/144 TSF, so a better comparison (box and size wise) would be an HGUC Char's Counterattack or Unicorn kit: 1530-2380 yen

By comparison, a 1/144 TSF can cost between 2800-3400 yen. Which is why most guys I know prefer to get the bigger nonscale TSFs (just 1000 yen more). Also, Koto's ML kits have a very limited run.


ty for the reply

im not too worried by how much part heavier they may be. i never got any grade higher than HG and PG MG RG are a bit daunting to me for the extra details. i dont mind my Nebula Blitz had a pretty good amount of pieces for me to deal with as the variant armor and stock pieces were included. those pieces were likely larger than 144 scale but im not bothered with that. i dont mind basic subframes ie 144 Quanta with average mobility.

i do have some small flat surface cutting pliers for the kits long ago. im guessing the pieces are closer together on the trays than Bandai.

so there's around $10-15 difference in general between both brands in the 144 scale. thats not too excessive for me. i can only hope i can find one for a good price though i havent really kept my eyes out on other brands than Bandai in the past. i did do a quick scan/pass over of non Gundam kits for the most part in the past. i'll see if some have lingered around in the shops since their release 144 or nonscale. some internet prices are up there and some are decent from what i understand from price ranges.

i believe the non scale Berkut has some issues holding attachments on, though ive yet to find a 144 review on it.

thank you all here for giving me info regarding the Kotobukiya kits and hope i didnt stray too far from the main thread topic.

i do have a 1/100 Lunamaria Gunner zaku from +10??? years ago, think it might've been old stock and her SD gunner but no 144 scale kit gunner. i actually like that kit quite a bit my self. the 100 scale gun is surprisingly long for the gunner zaku.


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