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X207 2009-11-16 00:39

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Originally Posted by Dynamite (Post 2768941)
Use paint thinner/alcohol. Think lighter fluid works too...but of course, its lighter fluid.

I believe Mr. Color is lacquer based so use lacquer thinner if you can't get your hands on actual Mr. Color thinner.

If you're using enamel, both lacquer and enamel thinners work.

If you don't want to ruin brushes, use acrylics. They wash off easily with just water.

If you're hand brushing, your brush should be kept in perfect condition. So...be careful with them. And don't buy any brushes below 2 or 3 dollars. They stink...



Yes, thinner can be used for that. But you have to use the right thinner. The wrong thinner either does nothing or makes matters worst.

I assume you're using enamel or lacquer since they react badly with water. Do not water your brush down after you dipped it in paint. If you want to wet your brush before painting, then dip it and squeeze out excess water.

thanks everyonefor the help, to art stores sell lacquer based paints? is so then i know 1-2 places i can check out for some lacquer thinner. i never use water on the brushes aside from the few times i use acrylic paints. i dont have any thinner atm though i do use varsal. it works well for enamel but it does little to remove mr color. i normally use humbrol enamel. i cant stand acrylic, too hard to use imo. too much thinner or not enough are my usual problems. i usually use a pack of 5-6 plaid/applebarrel brushes and it works well with enamel and acrylic. they also work well to apply mr color but then theres still the problem to remove the paint.

GrahamAker 2009-11-16 01:20

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http://www.modelers-g.jp/uploads/thumbs/2369-3.jpg http://www.modelers-g.jp/uploads/thumbs/2369-4.jpg

http://www.modelers-g.jp/uploads/thumbs/2369-5.jpg http://www.modelers-g.jp/uploads/thumbs/2369-6.jpg

http://www.modelers-g.jp/uploads/thumbs/2369-7.jpg

best kshatriya custom i have seen!

MakubeX2 2009-11-16 02:43

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/2198/1258321206932.jpg

bio9205 2009-11-16 04:57

My HG 1/144 Seraphim is in tatters, many broken and loose parts here and there. I'm thinking of getting another Seraphim or the Nadleeh. Any recommendations?

LoweGear 2009-11-16 07:17

Why not get yourself the Seravee GNHW? :nod:

bio9205 2009-11-16 07:33

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Originally Posted by LoweGear (Post 2770308)
Why not get yourself the Seravee GNHW? :nod:

Nah, I'd rather get normal Seravee. Seravee GNHW is nice, but looks a little shoddy and last-minute.

So, Seraphim or Nadleeh?

duotiga 2009-11-16 08:55

Seem the like the upcoming MG V Gundam will have addtional equipment to made it into 'Second V' (design from Gundam V novel.)
Not much info is known at this time if this will be given as first batch limited release? or comes together with the item?


http://i38.tinypic.com/nb3ixc.jpghttp://i36.tinypic.com/2eldueq.jpg
http://i35.tinypic.com/mtv315.jpg

Illustration of 'second V'

http://i33.tinypic.com/14cxrg8.jpghttp://i33.tinypic.com/oqyr07.jpg

taken from sgcollect

SonicSP 2009-11-16 09:16

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Originally Posted by bio9205 (Post 2770322)
Nah, I'd rather get normal Seravee. Seravee GNHW is nice, but looks a little shoddy and last-minute.

So, Seraphim or Nadleeh?

I don't know,doesn't the GNHW Seravee comes with almost everything that normal Seravee has,though I think the sideskirts arent available.[I took those off my normal Seravee anyways]

I havent build my Seraphim yet,though I have my Nadleeh.I think you should go with Seraphim,Nadleeh isn't that special and Seraphim can be posed with Seravee and still make canonical sense.

But mostly choose the one out of your design preference.

For the record,HG Seraphim does come with the short beam saber,that's compatible with the S2 Gundam hilts [Which fits the GN-X hilts I think].So a bonus if you think you can use them for something.

I think you can get the Cannon Hands and maybe use them on Seravee as well,so a bonus there.Nadleeh isn;t that interchangable as Virtue,though you can use the GN Cannons with Nadleeh.

JMvS 2009-11-16 13:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by duotiga (Post 2770388)
Seem the like the upcoming MG V Gundam will have addtional equipment to made it into 'Second V' (design from Gundam V novel.)
Not much info is known at this time if this will be given as first batch limited release? or comes together with the item?


http://i38.tinypic.com/nb3ixc.jpghttp://i36.tinypic.com/2eldueq.jpg
http://i35.tinypic.com/mtv315.jpg

Illustration of 'second V'

http://i33.tinypic.com/14cxrg8.jpghttp://i33.tinypic.com/oqyr07.jpg

taken from sgcollect

V.....my love (together with X and the Turn's).

I wonder if you can fit it with 8 beam rifles (6 hardpoints + hands) :D

But I fail at distinguishing second V, what are the differences?

GameraBaenre 2009-11-16 16:39

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Originally Posted by X207 (Post 2768059)
i have a question to the people that use mr. colour brand paints. i really like using that paint, sometimes it dries too fast for my liking but over i like it still. i do have one major problem with it. using that paint means that i need to scrap a brush. ive tried varsal then removing the paint with my finger nails that works half the time. usually it works on the first 2 uses then theres too much paint on the bristles and the brush becomes a solid point. is there any solution that neutralises it so the brush isnt scrapped? i usually use humbrol enamel but i do use mr color for some peices.

GSI also makes a product called Mr Retarder. A small drop of this stuff into your paint will slow the drying time for the paint. Mr Color Leveling Thinner is mr color thinner with mr retarder added, and this will help slow the drying time too. Lacquer paints are really meant for airbrushing.

The best paints to hand brush are enamel paints. They dry very slowly so you have plenty of time to clean the brush, fix mistakes, and the slow dry time allows the paint to self level which hides brush strokes.

bio9205 2009-11-16 18:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by SonicSP (Post 2770409)
I don't know,doesn't the GNHW Seravee comes with almost everything that normal Seravee has,though I think the sideskirts arent available.[I took those off my normal Seravee anyways]

I havent build my Seraphim yet,though I have my Nadleeh.I think you should go with Seraphim,Nadleeh isn't that special and Seraphim can be posed with Seravee and still make canonical sense.

But mostly choose the one out of your design preference.

For the record,HG Seraphim does come with the short beam saber,that's compatible with the S2 Gundam hilts [Which fits the GN-X hilts I think].So a bonus if you think you can use them for something.

I think you can get the Cannon Hands and maybe use them on Seravee as well,so a bonus there.Nadleeh isn;t that interchangable as Virtue,though you can use the GN Cannons with Nadleeh.

Thanks. Personally, I prefer Seravee's sideskirts, that's something the GNHW doesn't have, or isn't equipped with. I think I'll go with Seraphim, as I said, I already have one, albeit broken, but at least the hands are still intact, so I'll be able to do the 6 Beam Sabers spam when I get my Seravee. :p Thanks again!

LoweGear 2009-11-17 00:19

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Originally Posted by JMvS (Post 2770699)
But I fail at distinguishing second V, what are the differences?

The first two images in the post you quoted has the 2nd V equipment, which is the large cannon and backpack you see mounted on it :heh:

cupcakes4chris 2009-11-17 01:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by duotiga (Post 2770388)
Seem the like the upcoming MG V Gundam will have addtional equipment to made it into 'Second V' (design from Gundam V novel.)
Not much info is known at this time if this will be given as first batch limited release? or comes together with the item?


http://i38.tinypic.com/nb3ixc.jpghttp://i36.tinypic.com/2eldueq.jpg
http://i35.tinypic.com/mtv315.jpg

Illustration of 'second V'

http://i33.tinypic.com/14cxrg8.jpghttp://i33.tinypic.com/oqyr07.jpg

taken from sgcollect

Real?photoshopped? mod? :D I really want it.

duotiga 2009-11-17 06:19

is in novel
http://img1.a9vg.com/200801/17//1200581752554.jpg

Kelrys 2009-11-17 06:26

How good is the new seed astray 1/100 line? I haven't unbox my regen duel.

Are they just repaints of their 2003 counterparts? or are they on par with 00 line 1/100?

duotiga 2009-11-17 06:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelrys (Post 2771970)
How good is the new seed astray 1/100 line? I haven't unbox my regen duel.

Are they just repaints of their 2003 counterparts? or are they on par with 00 line 1/100?

i've fixed it.

as what you said. a repaint with a new tree in it.

GameraBaenre 2009-11-17 15:18

Progress for the sniper contiunes, panel lines and the first bits of weathering.

Panel line work, wash applied, then cleaned off after a day of dry time.

http://gamerabaenre.com/thumbnails/s...%20161_jpg.jpg http://gamerabaenre.com/thumbnails/s...%20162_jpg.jpg

Paint chipping

http://gamerabaenre.com/thumbnails/s...%20168_jpg.jpg http://gamerabaenre.com/thumbnails/s...%20169_jpg.jpg http://gamerabaenre.com/thumbnails/s...%20170_jpg.jpg

Applying a fade

http://gamerabaenre.com/thumbnails/s...%20172_jpg.jpg http://gamerabaenre.com/thumbnails/s...%20174_jpg.jpg

X207 2009-11-17 20:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by GameraBaenre (Post 2770952)
GSI also makes a product called Mr Retarder. A small drop of this stuff into your paint will slow the drying time for the paint. Mr Color Leveling Thinner is mr color thinner with mr retarder added, and this will help slow the drying time too. Lacquer paints are really meant for airbrushing.

The best paints to hand brush are enamel paints. They dry very slowly so you have plenty of time to clean the brush, fix mistakes, and the slow dry time allows the paint to self level which hides brush strokes.

thanks, im not sure where i can find mr retarder but i think i know 1 or 2 places i can check for it.


i have a general question to all of you. do you have any rituals in particular you go thru when you build a model? i usually leave the assembly if the head for the last step or i assemble it early on and put it on after the reast of the model is completed/

Dynamite 2009-11-17 22:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by X207 (Post 2772921)
thanks, im not sure where i can find mr retarder but i think i know 1 or 2 places i can check for it.

Bam!

Btw, only buy from this site if you have a lot of other things going along with it. They have a set shipping rate, being 10 dollars regardless of whatever purchased, be it a Gundam marker or twenty PG kits.

Quote:

i have a general question to all of you. do you have any rituals in particular you go thru when you build a model? i usually leave the assembly if the head for the last step or i assemble it early on and put it on after the reast of the model is completed/
Well I wouldn't call my building preferences rituals, since they make some logical sense...in my mind at least.

Usually build my way down. Head-chest-torso-arms-legs-backpack-weapons.

But do you count keeping my hands EXTRA EXTRA clean before building a kit a ritual...?

I do have some "rituals" (more like obsessive compulsiveness) when it comes to what I do after I build kits though.
For example, I've kept every single box from every single model I've ever built. I know a lot of people do it since they make nice display items. But I also keep ALL the plastic that came along with it. So I keep all the pieces of large plastic...and the plastic bags. Never know when they'll be useful...

SonicSP 2009-11-17 22:37

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Originally Posted by Dynamite (Post 2773055)
I do have some "rituals" (more like obsessive compulsiveness) when it comes to what I do after I build kits though.
For example, I've kept every single box from every single model I've ever built. I know a lot of people do it since they make nice display items. But I also keep ALL the plastic that came along with it. So I keep all the pieces of large plastic...and the plastic bags. Never know when they'll be useful...

LOL,I have OCD and I do the same things you do in regard to the keeping the box and the plastic.I guess I'm afraid that I forgotten to do something,like a small piece of an unimportant part,that may come in later.I keep the plastic bags as well,I used to throw them away but I collect them now because I plan to experiment some new building techniques that require a large number of them.


Quote:

Originally Posted by X207 (Post 2772921)
i have a general question to all of you. do you have any rituals in particular you go thru when you build a model? i usually leave the assembly if the head for the last step or i assemble it early on and put it on after the reast of the model is completed/

Usually,I just follow the instruction step by step.But I don't put the limbs together until the end.Easiar to store that way.

If I want to change improve colour,I do the surface painting beforehand with an airbrush.Smaller details are done by brush but usually after building.

Linings are after building I guess.I don't do sanding.

I'm in a bit of a bind with my HG Reborns,I'm not exactly sure which of the parts need colouring and since most of my small detail colouring are post building.Some tips and review I've read mentioned that its better to color it while building it,but since I'can't reallly know all the part that need to,I find that close to impossible for me to do it mentally,IE the planning part.


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