Any Sengoku Rance fans here? I recently got suck into the game n addicted to it cant stop playing man. Anyone wanna discuss??
Kaioshin Sama
2008-01-03 18:24
Whoooooooooo ROCK ON! Yeah, a topic for Rance. I just finished Kichiku-Oh Rance the other day and am about to start Rance 5D. I've played a bit of Sengoku Rance as well and it's pretty intricate. You have to manage character events, turn actions, troop levels, items, territory and such all at the same time. Plus later on you get the option to call in the regulars like Maria, Shizuka, Rick, Magic, Rizna and possibly a few others.
I also like how the game has absolutely no regard for the Japanese History it portrays. Uesegi Kenshin is a woman that pops up out of nowhere on occasion, Nobunaga is a political dunce and has his little sister do all the work for him (she even fights as a samurai) and Tokugawa Ieyasu is a racoon.
The game is also pretty damn funny with all it's in jokes and such. Half the territory names are actually puns or jokes on real life places.
Here are a couple music samples from the game too:
Very rarely do you get an eroge that has music in it that sounds like it belongs in a Super Robot Wars game. Pretty much the entire track set of the Rance series has been this awesome psycho hair metal guitar music ever since Rance 5D brought it into the modern XP setting.
Garet Jax
2008-01-03 21:03
Don't know the games, but that's some mad Stepmania in the second vid. :twitch: (Sorry to go OT.) I don't think I'm capable of even visually recognizing something that fast. I feel inferior now.
Kaioshin Sama
2008-01-03 21:34
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Originally Posted by Garet Jax
(Post 1326291)
Don't know the games, but that's some mad Stepmania in the second vid. :twitch: (Sorry to go OT.) I don't think I'm capable of even visually recognizing something that fast. I feel inferior now.
It's the Final Boss Theme, which is also used for a couple optional fights like Orochi. Back when people would always post links to Drumania or DDR vids for Hare Hare Yukai claiming the song featured intense percussion portions I used to like posting a link to this.
Here's one more called Ontology which has been in the series for as long as I can remember. It's generally used as the Demon Theme:
A little later on I'll try to introduce some of the series characters and hopefully get some people interested. It's one of the longest running eroge series out there (Rance 1 was released in 1989). The best games to try are Kichiku-Oh Rance, Rance 5D, Rance VI The Fall of Zeth, and Sengoku Rance.
selkirk
2008-01-03 22:04
Regarding the music, here's a site with some great arrangements of some of the Sengoku Rance tracks. http://www.human-bbq.com/
Garet Jax
2008-01-03 23:21
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Originally Posted by Kaioshin_Sama
(Post 1326316)
It's the Final Boss Theme, which is also used for a couple optional fights like Orochi. Back when people would always post links to Drumania or DDR vids for Hare Hare Yukai claiming the song featured intense percussion portions I used to like posting a link to this.
Here's one more called Ontology which has been in the series for as long as I can remember. It's generally used as the Demon Theme:
I see. Great songs, especially the first one. And thanks selkirk so I can get a version of it. :cool:
Kaioshin Sama
2008-01-04 02:31
Here's A Bit Of History On Some Of The Characters:
Name: Rance Claire
Occupation: Mercenary
Interests: Sex
Special Attack: Rance Attack
First Appearance: Rance 1 - Seeking Light
Description: Self Styled as the strongest and greates man in the world, Rance actually is quite adept at swordplay, but can't seem to control his sex drive. For this reason he often finds himself in trouble and drags all the regulars along with him right into it. Though his slave Sill always follows him willingly. Rance's achievments include being King of The World, Defeating the Demon Realm many times and Even besting God in a contest of wits. Though he still can't seem to handle himself around lolis, which are the only thing that make him uneasy and paralyzed with indecision. Rance is a warrior type through and through and a front row character who can sort of tank and can really dish out the damage when it counts. His Rance attack often takes a turn to charge, but deals 3 times as much damage as a normal attack in return. Normally Rance resides within the town of Ice and looks to the local Keth Mercenaries Guild for paying work to get by.
Name: Sill Plain
Occupation: Slave/Magic User
Interests: Serving Rance
Special Attack: F Laser
First Appearance: Rance 1 - Seeking Light
Description: Rance's faithful companion. She serves Rance in every decision he makes and willfull gives her body to him any time he desires it. For this she regularly receives nothing but abuse, but Rance does in fact care for her deep down and is always there to rescue her when it counts. Sill's primary function is to act as a healer for Rance and is a back row character. She also specializes at bit in attack magic, but isn't as adept as Shizuka.
Name: Rick Addison
Occupation: Leazus Red Army Captain
Interests: Serving Justice And Upholding Leazus' Standard
Special Attack: By The Way
First Appearance: Rance 3 - The Fall of Leazus
Description: Rick is the leader of the Red Army of Leazus and the strongest man in the whole army. In fact he is equal in strength to Rance himself and sees him as a friendly rival, though Rance returns this with bitter rivalry and a hatred of Rick's strict code of honor and virtue. Rick wields a special sword grafted on the end of a pole which he calls the Byrod and uses it to unleash his special attack By The Way, which is a Z like slash that does piercing damage. He usually wears a mask giving him an imposing stature, but under the mask is actually the face of a young boy, and when not wearing it he becomes horribly embarassed and easily frightened, unable to attack. Rick is a front row character tank type with lots of HP and very strong attack, but is also horribly slow. His By The Way attack takes a turn to charge but ignores enemy defence values when unleashed.
Name: Maria Custard
Occupation: Machinist And Former Witch Of Custom
Interests: Technology And Weaponary
Special Attack: Tulip Bazooka
First Appearance: Rance 2 - Hangyaku no Shoujyotachi
Description: Maria was formerly a Witch Of Custom (a town in the Free Cities Alliance located inside a cave) and an enemy of Rance who specialized in Water Magic. After Rance defeated her and smashed her Magic Ring (taking her virginity in the process) she settled down and started working on machines and technology to better the living standards of the people of Custom. Maria is seemingly always smiling and cheerful and always ready to answer the call of Rance and her allies in Leazus with her trusty Tulip Bazooka at her side. Maria is a back row character that attacks like a front row character. Her HP is low and she's kind of fragile, but she can do some great area damage with her Tulip Bazooka. She's also my favourite character in the series.
Name: Masou Shizuka
Occupation: Travelling Mage
Interests: Studying Magic
Special Attack: White Destructive Light Ray
First Appearance: Rance 2 - Hangyaku no Shoujyotachi
Description: Shizuka was and almost still is an enemy of Rance and one of the Four Witches of Custom. Specializing as all magic she served as what essentially amounted to the final boss of Rance 2. Shizuka is a very powerful spellcaster capable of matching rance quite well in combat. Best friends with Maria Custard and absolutely detesting Rance most of the time, Shizuka is actually credited by 2ch as being the first known Tsundere in eroge history. She originally came from Zeth the Magical Kingdom and has a very strained relationship with her stepsister Nagi. Eventually she settled in Custom and continues to research magic, and one point rising to a Class 3 level mage during the Tatamaki City Arc with such power that it ultimately threatened to rip her body apart and she was forced back into Class 2 status. Since then she has calmed down a little and realized her limits, giving Rance a little more credit and at least trying to coexist with him since Maria is friendly with him. Shizuka is technically a backrow mage, but her magic is strong enough that it gives her good defense and she can handle the front row against most middle tier opponents. Shizuka has all the spells that Sill has including F Laser, but no healing abilites. Her White Destructive Light Ray takes a turn to charge, but deals 400% of her regular damage and is an area attack, making Shizuka one of the most devastatingly powerful characters in the series.
Update:
Spoiler for Patton Misnorj:
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Name: Patton Misnorj (Helman)
Occupation: Exiled Prince/Pugilist
Interests: Reclaiming The Throne/Conquest
Special Attack: Boisterous Dance
First Appearance: Rance 3 - The Fall of Leazus
Description: Patton was once the Prince of Helman (A Soviet Union like country to the northwest of Leazus) who lead an attack on Leazus, the sworn enemy of Helman by allying itself with the Demons from Hornet (Demon territory located on the far west of the continent). He and the demons actually managed to seize control of Leazus Castle, killing the King and Queen and imprisoning Lia. After Lia's maid Maris sent out a call for help to Rance though he answered it (for money only and to save the beautiful women) with Sill and many of their allies and formed a military campaign to drive Patton out of Leazus. After that Patton was exiled from Helman by the ambitious and manipulative Prime Minister Stoessel and his sister younger Sheila was put on the throne instead to act as a figure head for him. Patton later met up with his most loyal general Hubert, a Fighting God from Tatakami City that Hubert found named Freak, and the made scientist Hanti, and travelled the landscapes of Helman as fugitives for a while before becoming indebted to Rance. Now a fairly regular ally of Rance and co. Patton offers his brute strength in return for annual compensation and supplies to be offered by Leazus to the starving and impoverished Helman. Patton is always looking for an opportunity to take back his kingdom and rescue Sheila from a responsibility she is not ready for, and Sheila worries constantly for her long lost brother, occasionally sending out a scout behind Stoessel's back to look for information on his whereabouts. Patton is a front row tank through and through and fights with his fists alone. His Boisterous Dance ability will cause all enemies to attack him for a turn in return for a punishing all area attack the next.
Spoiler for Lia Parapara Leazus:
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Name: Lia Parapara Leazus
Occupation: Queen (Formerly Princess) of Leazus
Interests: Rance
Special Attack: Thunder of Leazus
First Appearance: Rance 1 - Seeking Light
Description: Don't let the smiling fool you, because unlike Maria, Lia is a total sadist through and through. In the first game she was kidnapping and imprisoning any girl said to be more beautiful than her and had to be taught a lesson by Rance. After losing her virginity to Rance she became even worse, and will stop at nothing to make him her King. Rance sees her as a pesky nuisance most of the time as she's constantly following him around calling him Darling and trying to seduce him (sometimes he give in though). In Rance 3 she was imprisoned in her own castle by Patton and eventually rescued by Rance where she joined the party briefly. During the Tatakami City Arc Lia began showing intense jealousy towards Sill and when she sent a rescue party for Rance she gave Kanami special orders to assassinate Sill, but Rance was able to rescue her and convince Kanami that their are some orders that she should refuse out of principal. In terms of the personality I described earlier she tends to think like Rance, and believes all living and non-living things are like toys for her to abuse and use in any way possible. Despite this she still seems relatively popular with the people of Leazus, although this is in reality due to her personal ninja Kanami silencing any critics and her maid Maris' swarthy political ability and advisorship. Lia know a little bit of magic, and is a definite back row character if that. She isn't very durable, but her Thunder of Leazus attack does fixed damage on any enemy regardless of defense, making her somewhat useful in cracking hard shelled or magically defended foes. She is also another one of my favourites just behind Maria.
Name: Kanami Kentarou
Occupation: Lia's Assassin
Interests: Serving Lia
Special Attack: Dispatch
First Appearance: Rance 1 - Seeking Light
Description: Kanami hails from the isolated south-eastern island of JAPAN, but lives in Leazus on the patronage of it's Queen Lia who saved her life when she was little. Indebted to her forever by a code of honor (yes I realize she should be a Bushido Samurai if she's supposed to serve a lord, but Alicesoft doesn't care so why should I), Kanami serves Lia unquestioningly in all she does. Acting as the Final Boss of Rance 1, Kanami tries to assassinate Rance, but is ultimately bested by his stronger build and the inability for her to have anywhere to hide. After that she helps in the liberation of Leazus and acts as an ally during the Tatakami City arc where she tries to assassinate Sill on Lia's request, but is stopped by Rance. After that she doesn't serve Lia quite so willingly out of duty, but merely as a friend. In Sengoku Rance Kanami returns to Japan for the first time and it's assumed she is an exiled member of the Iga House. Kanami exists somewhere between the front row, back row and the enemy somewhere east, west, south and north of right over there. Seriously, she likes to disappear from the battleground only to reappear right next to the enemy doing direct damage without threat of counterattack and bouncing back into whatever slot she previously occupied, or possibly not. Kanami's evasion and speed are unparralled by any of her allies and she seemingly can never be hit. Her special attack dispatch has a 33% chance of killing whatever enemy she uses it on, making her a fairly balances character overall.
Hemisphere
2008-01-04 02:47
You guys are really making me want to play Sengoku Rance ASAP. >w<
EternalNite
2008-01-04 02:55
HOHOHO! Finally some ppl who noes Sengoku Rance.I find it the most action-packed H-game ever.How often do u play a H-game like this.Most H-game is abt romance,love and tons of Sex.But this is different tts wad i like abt this game.Sure reminds me of some Romance of the three kingdom Strategy-RPG game.I saw on a Youtube vid. tt is the most popular H-game in 2006.Rock on Sengoku Rance/Alicesoft!
However i m not a veteran n needs help x_x".
Kaioshin Sama
2008-01-04 03:10
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Originally Posted by EternalNite
(Post 1326582)
HOHOHO! Finally some ppl who noes Sengoku Rance.I find it the most action-packed H-game ever.How often do u play a H-game like this.Most H-game is abt romance,love and tons of Sex.But this is different tts wad i like abt this game.Sure reminds me of some Romance of the three kingdom Strategy-RPG game.I saw on a Youtube vid. tt is the most popular H-game in 2006.Rock on Sengoku Rance/Alicesoft!
However i m not a veteran n needs help x_x".
Yeah, inside Japan the Rance Series and Alicesoft in general are legendary, but outside of Japan people only seem aware of Key/Visual Arts and maybe Type Moon. It's a shame that Alicesoft puts so much effort into there games in the visual, musical, gameplay (god forbid they actually try to have gameplay and to mix it up each game at that) and comedy will never see any really popularity outside of Japan and perhaps a limited offering in Hong Kong. Oh well, Japan will keep them and the Rance series going another 20 years hopefully so that's good enough for me.
if you need help by the way Alicesoft Wiki has a pretty extensive documentation of the game and it's updated quite frequently with new information.
Hemisphere
2008-01-04 03:38
If eroges became popular outside of Japan, conservatives would have a field day demonstrating against such games because of their "content", for one thing. Having eroges stay in Japan is good enough for me.
Going slightly off topic, has anyone here played Daibanchou? It's also another AliceSoft title.
Newprimus
2008-01-04 04:33
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Originally Posted by Erhjegel
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You guys are really making me want to play Sengoku Rance ASAP. >w<
Beware. It has no voice and I hear they use oldish Japanese in there which isn't comfortable with Atlas most likely. Good luck though.
selkirk
2008-01-04 06:15
One absolutely essential program for playing Sengoku Rance: AlquadeLite
I doubt I would ever have managed to play through this so many times without speeding up the game 8x. :p
Kaioshin Sama
2008-01-04 13:41
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Originally Posted by Shinova
(Post 1326663)
Beware. It has no voice and I hear they use oldish Japanese in there which isn't comfortable with Atlas most likely. Good luck though.
Alicesoft are kind of like the Squaresoft of Eroge and like to use Systems (in fact there engine is called the System 4.0 and runs off of it's own unique engine that seperates the threads of code from being woven into any other process since it uses a really weird IRQ. Or something like that). For this reason AGTH could not hook the text for the longest time, but a patch was eventually released to alter the System 4.0 engine (it's actually it's own file. Every modern Alicesoft game installs an axe file as System 4.0) and brings it in line with the normal text threads that AGTH would try to hook. In fact the latest AGTH now has it's own Alicesoft function that it defaults to when it recognizes the System 4.0, so text hooks properly and transfers to ATLAS. The only other problem is that Alicesoft also tends to do this thing where even though text appears to be a part of the same window and thread in the game, it is actually part of another one, forcing you to switch between threads in AGTH to copy and paste and build your own version of the actual display. To date though I have only seen this happen with two of their games, Kichiku-Oh Rance (During the display of CG's, which merely forces you to switch threads since there is no other text, and Dai Bancho (Pain in the ass since it actually includes two threads that should reasonably be seperated as one [Character Name and Dialogue] and Atlas translates it in such a way that it appears smack in the middle of a sentence).
As long as you know what to look for though, these problems are pretty minor. Though Rance having no voice is something of a tradition like Legend of Zelda. If people must know, in the OVA he was voiced by Kazuki Yao (Judau Ashta from Gundam ZZ, Shinobu Fujiwara from Dancougar, Mr. 2 Bon Clay Sama from One Piece) and Sill had kind of a high pitched whiny voice, so that's what they sound like. Only a couple games by Alicesoft like Pastel Chime and Galzoo Island feature voice and that's because most of the time they use the space actually filling the DVD up with Game content.
Hemisphere
2008-01-04 14:46
Pastel Chime Continue was quite fun, too, even if the gameplay wasn't dazzling. I like Rina Rindou. <3
Kaioshin Sama
2008-01-04 14:54
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Originally Posted by Erhjegel
(Post 1327191)
Pastel Chime Continue was quite fun, too, even if the gameplay wasn't dazzling. I like Rina Rindou. <3
Lucy Minshiato, Phil Ihato and Natsumi Cameron for me. Rina Rindou has enjoyed popularity outside the game. I'm amazed that Pastel Chime never managed to get an adaptation, but somewhat glad as it probably would have just ended up like Prism Ark.
Kaioshin Sama
2008-01-04 14:57
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Originally Posted by Erhjegel
(Post 1327191)
Pastel Chime Continue was quite fun, too, even if the gameplay wasn't dazzling. I like Rina Rindou. <3
Lucy Minshiato, Phil Ihato, 鈴木 ぼたん (the girl with the purple hair and cat ears that looks like a mage type but is actually a fighter) and Natsumi Cameron for me. Rina Rindou has enjoyed popularity outside the game. I'm amazed that Pastel Chime never managed to get an adaptation, but somewhat glad as it probably would have just ended up like Prism Ark. Pastel Chime Continue also contains something that no other eroge I know of contains. A Fat Female Character
w3g
2008-01-05 02:41
Oh wow @ video 0_0 1114 combo on Rebirth the Edge
I wanna try it too... but I might die of heart failure
Great song and great game. Spent more time playing this game than any other except MMO.
EternalNite
2008-01-05 09:13
I seriously wonder how long can i last with this game. U hav the 2nd games with the IF route and af u complete tt u av the "All Nation" mode n aft u can try 5 stars difficulty. I can play this 4 months and i also wanna really thank Alicesoft 4 making this great and unique H-game. Live and Rock on Alicesoft ^_^.
Hemisphere
2008-01-05 09:54
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Originally Posted by selkirk
(Post 1326346)
Regarding the music, here's a site with some great arrangements of some of the Sengoku Rance tracks. http://www.human-bbq.com/
Off topic, but wow, these arrangements are awesome. They're just as good as CROW'sCLAW's!