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NeoSam 2006-04-06 19:34

The Novel and Manga of Haruhi Suzumiya
 
涼宮ハルヒ

Suzumiya Haruhi is originally a novel thats serialized in the seinen(young men's) novel magazine The Sneaker (the same magazine that serialized the seinen novel Trinity Blood).
For now there are 8 volumes released of this novel, here are the covers:

http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/7...velvol11dp.jpg http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/1...velvol26th.jpg http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/613/novelvol33wh.jpg http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/1...velvol48hk.jpg http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/1...velvol53te.jpg http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/3...velvol64yl.jpg http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/2...velvol79yc.jpg http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/3996/vol86gk.jpg

The illustrator of the novel is Itou Noiji (the same illustrator of the seinen novel Shakugan no SHANA)

A manga based on the novel is serialized in the shounen manga magazine Shounen Ace.
There is 1 volume released of this manga, here are the covers:

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/205/mangavol12mw.jpg

This manga has ended with one volume, read why on this page:
Suzumiya Haruhi anime thread.

Genre: Seinen, Comedy.

Volume 8 of the seinen novel will be released om 1/5/2006 (May 1st, 2006). --> cover of volume 8 got added above with the other covers of the novel.
A new Suzumiya Haruhi manga is currently serializing in Shounen Ace magazine and the first volume of it will be released on 26/4/2006.

Here is the first volume and the second volume of the new manga:

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/1...ngavol18wg.jpg http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/8...iyavol29ai.jpg

An anime based on the novel started recently, site of the anime:
http://www.haruhi.tv/
http://lantis-net.com/haruhi/

And also the Suzumiya Haruhi anime thread.

Anyway this thread is for discussing the novel and manga of Suzumiya Haruhi.

NeoSam 2006-04-11 03:02

Yay :) thanks Moe group for the first 7 volumes of the novel :)

MagikalFly 2006-04-13 02:26

what's going on? I see chapter 1-7 of manga available but earlier, there was a volume 1, i think, of manga also available. Both seemed real but very different art. what's up with that?

Sushi-Y 2006-04-13 04:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagikalFly
what's going on? I see chapter 1-7 of manga available but earlier, there was a volume 1, i think, of manga also available. Both seemed real but very different art. what's up with that?

If you looked at the first page of the anime thread (also known as the peaceful times before the anime aired and brought with it a swarm of new fans), you'll know that there are two different manga adaptations for Suzumiya Haruhi.

The first manga adaptation, which serialized on the comic magazine Shonen Ace back in 2004, was drawn by Mizuno Makoto. Unfortunately, the manga was received poorly among the fans because both the drawing style and the storytelling were too different from the original novel. The manga was cancelled after only a single tankoubon release in September of 2004 (The cover is shown in Neosam's post above). For most people, this manga has been swept into kurorekishi (dark history). In other words, "it never existed".

The second (current) manga adaptation is drawn by Tsuganogaku, and began its serialization on Shonen Ace back in November of 2005, and is currently still ongoing. The first tankoubon (volume) of the manga is due to be released on April 26, 2006.

sophismata 2006-04-13 11:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagikalFly
what's going on? I see chapter 1-7 of manga available but earlier, there was a volume 1, i think, of manga also available. Both seemed real but very different art. what's up with that?

Basically, the manga has only recently started. While you may be able to find some material referring to an older manga, this "older manga" never actually existed. Anything you find that references it is just hearsay and lies... hearsay and lies.

If you were to look at this non-existant manga, you would see why it could not possibly exist (it was that bad, apparantly).

panzerfan 2006-04-13 13:32

One thing to love about the novel is that you have to put in 3x the amount of narritive descriptions to captivate the audience, which means that Kyon gets quite a workout and subsequently his lines in the anime becomes that much stronger as he is both a narriator and an actor. We miss tidbits in the anime for obvious reasons... although not much since KyoAni handles the source material very well.

Good thing though is that the anime's character designs are so good that I don't see the 2 as seperate entities.

melange 2006-04-13 16:02

In fact I find the anime heightens certain details mentioned in passing in the novel... like Haruhi's mesmerizing hair toss and just like how the contrast between a Tomo-gag and a Osaka-gag which was achieved in the Azumanga anime added hilarilty some of the cuts from character to character (the hyper-genki Haruhi -> teary-eyed Mikuru -> 'why-am-i-here Kyon -> completely motionless Yuki) really heightened the disjointedness to even more humorous levels.

mp3chan 2006-04-14 10:47

Is there any info about how many volume the novel will be?

Onizuka-GTO 2006-04-14 14:49

does anyone know who the author is?

mp3chan 2006-04-14 14:57

Nagaru Tanigawa

Onizuka-GTO 2006-04-14 15:38

cheers. added.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mel...aruhi_Suzumiya

:)

Onizuka-GTO 2006-04-14 21:03

hey, was Haruhi ever Serialized in Shounen Ace, the manga version?

That's what i got for the Wiki,

edit: oh hang on, you did mention it. in the first post. sorry. ;^^

oh but was the manga done by Kaoru Mori?

She's been listed as the mangaka for manga haruhi in wiki.

ragnarokr 2006-04-15 03:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeoSam
A manga based on the novel is serialized in the shounen manga magazine Shounen Ace.
For now there is 1 volume released of this manga, here are the covers:

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/205/mangavol12mw.jpg

This manga has ended with one volume, read why on this page:
Suzumiya Haruhi anime thread.

Genre: Seinen, Comedy.

I got ahold of this volume recently and the first thing I noticed was the difference of art between this artist and Itou Noiji's art. Noiji's art is of course far better than the artist of the manga.
I wanted to talk about the content, but I'm unable to, since I don't understand a damn thing of what's written there, but I can say that it is interesting and funny just from looking at the drawings.

Sushi-Y 2006-04-15 03:40

Since NoSanninWa didn't like the novel translation talks in the Q&A thread, I guess I'll post my reply here (I already typed it, might as well post it ^^; ).
====================
Quote:

Originally Posted by melange
I agree with Sushi-Y. Some of those sentences/concepts in all the denpa talk don't even feel like they belong in a 'light' novel.

It's not that bad all the time though, I only listed a few that happened to be particularly woozy to demonstrate my point. If you have enough patience, it's not impossible.

"次元振動周期を位相変換し重力波に置き換える作用を持つ力場を体表面に発生させた"
"I have caused a force field to occur on the surface of her body that carrys the effect of converting the phase of dimensional oscillication cycles and altering them into gravitational waves "

Oh yeah, I should probably hold back on typing Japanese in my posts here, apparently, I'm getting flamed on 2ch (of all places) for being some kind of elitist or something, ouch. :heh:

zalas 2006-04-15 03:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sushi-Y
"次元振動周期を位相変換し重力波に置き換える作用を持つ力場を体表面に発生させた"
"I have caused a force field to occur on the surface of her body that carrys the effect of coverting the phase of dimensional oscillication cycles and altering them into gravitational waves "

I am soo tempted to use that as a test for translator recruitment... Reminds me of crustol's old "kanji test."

Vexx 2006-04-15 04:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sushi-Y
Since NoSanninWa didn't like the novel translation talks in the Q&A thread, I guess I'll post my reply here (I already typed it, might as well post it ^^; ).
====================

It's not that bad all the time though, I only listed a few that happened to be particularly woozy to demonstrate my point. If you have enough patience, it's not impossible.

"次元振動周期を位相変換し重力波に置き換える作用を持つ力場を体表面に発生させた"
"I have caused a force field to occur on the surface of her body that carrys the effect of coverting the phase of dimensional oscillication cycles and altering them into gravitational waves "

Oh yeah, I should probably hold back on typing Japanese in my posts here, apparently, I'm getting flamed on 2ch (of all places) for being some kind of elitist or something, ouch. :heh:


Gimme a break.... on 2chan? (refrains from labeling)
eh.. as long as you translate or call it a test, I'm fine with it. Does that translate as "coverting" or "inverting"?

@NoSanninWa: apologies.. I hadn't even noticed we'd drifted off frequency in Q&A.

Gosh, I can't even remember what I posted now relating to translation ... guess it wasn't critical. Something about ordering the books and a reference to Dan Ackroyd-style amazing monologues ala Ghostbusters.

sophismata 2006-04-15 06:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sushi-Y
Oh yeah, I should probably hold back on typing Japanese in my posts here, apparently, I'm getting flamed on 2ch (of all places) for being some kind of elitist or something, ouch. :heh:

Really? How does that work?

You're work is awesome, like Kyon, and helpful, like Mikuru. Gotta love similies.

Onizuka-GTO 2006-04-15 08:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sushi-Y
Oh yeah, I should probably hold back on typing Japanese in my posts here, apparently, I'm getting flamed on 2ch (of all places) for being some kind of elitist or something, ouch. :heh:


lololol.
well, if they got a problem with you on these forum boards, they should come here and complain.

who cares what they say.

your translating some holy Haruhi information for us, unlike them lot on 2ch. :rolleyes:

For that we thank you.

If that makes you elitist....well... Say your families are ninja's, then "Gaijin smash" them.

they will understand.

:D

panzerfan 2006-04-16 17:21

It is very amusing that 2ch will even bother paying any attention to oversea board discussions such as this one and to go on and criticize on the subject matter. Moreover, why would they voice out such oppositions outside of the domain which the discussions are being hold?

At any rate, I am going to totally go off tangent but...
Spoiler:

Onizuka-GTO 2006-04-16 18:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by panzerfan
It is very amusing that 2ch will even bother paying any attention to oversea board discussions such as this one and to go on and criticize on the subject matter. Moreover, why would they voice out such oppositions outside of the domain which the discussions are being hold?

I have no idea, maybe its the "Haruhi effect"? :D

Either way its very strange, and absolutely unwarranted, I mean i might be a barbarian gaijin, but insulting any members on our forum for no reason means WA-! sorry, i meant it's very rude. We don't insult them for being selffish for not helping us fellow fans to share in the love that is Haruhi.

:rolleyes:

Quote:

At any rate, I am going to totally go off tangent but...
Spoiler:

well, quite easily since...ah...well it's been posted in one of the spoiler, so i'll let you do the rest. lets just say that Yuki can't "supress" merely conceal the results. And she isn't the only one able to "clean up" after Haruhi. ;)

melange 2006-04-16 18:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onizuka-GTO
I have no idea, maybe its the "Haruhi effect"? :D

Either way its very strange, and absolutely unwarranted, I mean i might be a barbarian gaijin, but I insulting any members on our forum for no reason means WA-! sorry, i meant it's very sad.

I'd be very scared if you go off declaring WA- on 2ch. Japanese 2ch hackers have been known to utterly overload and shutdown websites that don't suit their fancy :heh:

2chは最高だよ!私たちを攻めないで... :heh:

panzerfan 2006-04-16 18:14

(I was about to commit the heinous crime of making sense of what I see in fiction. Thank goodness I snapped out of it ><)

Spoiler:


The Japanese hackers are something. Actually the whole of Asia-Pacific has seen great many skirmishes between hackers all over, whether they be from China PR, S. Korea, Taiwan or even HK. Things as simple as defaming a webpage portal to all out DoS happens whenever tensions run high over the China sea.

Onizuka-GTO 2006-04-16 18:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by melange
I'd be very scared if you go off declaring WA- on 2ch. Japanese 2ch hackers have been known to utterly overload and shutdown websites that don't suit their fancy :heh:

2chは最高だよ!私たちを攻めないで... :heh:


And they have the nerve to call us "barbarians" :rolleyes:

melange 2006-04-17 03:05

Well I finally managed to get some more progress on my reading.. and hopefully when the actual physical novels (what am I reading now? *whistles innocently*) arrive tomorrow it'll move along faster. Staring at the screen continually is taking its toll.. X_X In any case... finally Tsuruya-san got introduced and I'm quite digging her character. Not as uber-genki as Haruhi but that machine-gun fire speech pattern! :D

NeoSam 2006-04-19 08:53

The new Suzumiya Haruhi manga is serialized in the shounen manga magazine Shounen Ace.

First volume of the manga will be released on 26/4/2006. (Price: 567 yen)

Second volume of the manga will be released on 26/6/2006.

Source: Kadokawa

And yes the second volume of the manga is coming out soon too :)
I'll post the covers of the manga volumes when they are available.

Onizuka-GTO 2006-04-19 12:09

new? what does that mean? its a second series or something? or a repeat?

Is it the same manga that was illustrated by Gaku Tsugano?

wait,m so counting the failed manga released in spetember 2004, and the other one in november 2005, this one will nmade it the third version of suzumiya haruhi?

yes? no?

:confused:

Adigard 2006-04-19 12:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onizuka-GTO
new? what does that mean? its a second series or something? or a repeat?

Is it the same manga that was illustrated by Gaku Tsugano?

wait,m so counting the failed manga released in spetember 2004, and the other one in november 2005, this one will nmade it the third version of suzumiya haruhi?

I've seen the first volume of the original manga... It's not that good. My understanding from this forum is that the original manga was far enough off kilter that it's been dismissed into non-existance. There's a term for it that's totally escaping me atm.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kj1980
The manga was scrapped into "kuro-rekishi" ("dark history" = anachronism; a material that is viewed as it never happened and not to be discussed again. Other notable examples include "Macross II" and "Highlander 2").

Simply put: It's so awful, it is considered to be non-existent.

The new manga (in theory) is starting from the beginning of vol1 and telling the story from scratch. (I haven't seen the new manga, but that's what I've managed to skim from these boards). My understanding is that the new manga is doing a much better job at staying faithful to both the flow of the storyline, as well as maintaining the character designs. Something that other manga didn't do very well at all.

Sushi-Y 2006-04-19 13:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adigard
My understanding is that the new manga is doing a much better job at staying faithful to both the flow of the storyline, as well as maintaining the character designs. Something that other manga didn't do very well at all.

Unfortunately, even this remake is looking kinda bland now, compared to the anime.

kj1980 2006-04-19 17:55

Does anyone want me to do a light novel synopsis similar to the one I have in the "Full Metal Panic!" section?

NeoSam 2006-04-19 19:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onizuka-GTO
wait,m so counting the failed manga released in spetember 2004, and the other one in november 2005, this one will nmade it the third version of suzumiya haruhi?

yes? no?

:confused:

There is no third version of Suzumiya Haruhi manga.
When I say new manga, I mean the second Suzumiya Haruhi manga thats currently running in Shounen Ace magazine (And the first manga is the one that failed, but it doesn't exist so in reality it didn't fail :p LOL)

Quote:

Originally Posted by kj1980
Does anyone want me to do a light novel synopsis similar to the one I have in the "Full Metal Panic!" section?

That would be great :) but I'm not sure how many are interested in reading them, since it might spoil the anime >.<

melange 2006-04-19 20:47

Sorry but I just have to say something...
Spoiler for Novel 3 Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody:

Sushi-Y 2006-04-19 21:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by melange
Sorry but I just have to say something...
Spoiler for Novel 3 Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody:

Personally, I'm into the "Haruhi" in volume 4 myself, she totally had a Shana-aura around her... well, for about _ seconds anyway. :heh: You'll see what I mean when you get there. ^^; "Yuki" was also totally :love: too.

melange 2006-04-19 22:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sushi-Y
Personally, I'm into the "Haruhi" in volume 4 myself, she totally had a Shana-aura around her... well, for about _ seconds anyway. :heh: You'll see what I mean when you get there. ^^; "Yuki" was also totally :love: too.

Lets see.. about 170 pages left before I get to vol. 4 :heh: Speaking of which I'm kinda relieved that vol.4 looks thinner than all the other vols! :heh:

Spoiler for Other things about Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody:

NeoSam 2006-04-22 10:51

Volume 8 of the seinen novel Suzumiya Haruhi will be released on 1/5/2006 (May 1st, 2006).

Here its cover:

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/4...velvol85gh.jpg
Seinen novel

The first volume of the new Suzumiya Haruhi manga will be released on 26/4/2006.

Here its cover:

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/1...ngavol18wg.jpg

Serialized in: Shounen Ace

Covers of the novel and manga can be seen on the first post of this thread.

Thelastguardian 2006-04-22 17:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeoSam
The first volume of the new Suzumiya Haruhi manga will be released on 26/4/2006.

Well, the background pictures of my signature are from the (2nd)manga . You can tell that the mangaka did a good job imitating the original illustrator's style.

Julius Firefocht 2006-04-23 00:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thelastguardian
Well, the background pictures of my signature are from the (2nd)manga . You can tell that the mangaka did a good job imitating the original illustrator's style.

Yes, indeed. I seriously thought that Ito Noizi drew the manga. The style used in the manga is so similar to Ito Noizi's style.

NeoSam 2006-04-23 03:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thelastguardian
Well, the background pictures of my signature are from the (2nd)manga . You can tell that the mangaka did a good job imitating the original illustrator's style.

Thelastguardian, you have a sixth sense or something like that >.<

I was thinking about asking you about your signature :)

NeoSam 2006-04-28 10:36

The first volume of the new manga will be out soon :D

Also...

The june's issue of the seinen(young men's) novel magazine The Sneaker got out today (28/4/2006)

Here its cover:

http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/6...sneaker7ti.jpg

Seinen(young men's) novel magazine.
Serializes light novels for young men (seinen light novels).
Publisher: Kadokawa

The seinen novel Suzumiya Haruhi is serialized in it.

Onizuka-GTO 2006-04-28 22:49

Talking about the manga, i've noticed the raw manga of haruhi showing up on Bt sites.

interesting really, i mean someone could do a haruhi scanlation..... :D

not that im implying we could jump in, but it won't hurt to have a peek...ne..ne? :p

moyism 2006-04-28 22:58

Personally I've rather have translations of the novel than the manga, since it seems the novel is a lot more richer in content.

... but I definitely wouldn't complain if a haruhi manga scanlation showed up one day ;)


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