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broken270 2011-12-31 14:43

Just a few hours remain until we flood this with who we nominated for 2012. I have a pretty decent list here myself, but, of course, I hope that all of the girls I have nominated make it this year. One can only hope.
Spoiler for Wrestling Reference:

Ithekro 2011-12-31 14:50

Or the Inner Sphere and Clans from Battletech?

Team Rocket Elite 2011-12-31 15:07

Will returning iDOLM@STER characters be considered Stella or Nova? It was a gap of slightly under 4 years between the end of Xenoglossia and the new series.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hinakatbklyn (Post 3926875)
http://www.internationalsaimoe.com/f...php?f=2&t=2628
(see first post)

I was thinking the same thing that the top 24 should auto-qualify regardless of which division they qualify to. Instead, it will be the top 12 equally for each division. There were more representatives with winning records in the stella division. The Nova division still had a few spots available.

Only one that got a second chance despite her record that I wanted to see in the preliminaries <My opinion> is Haruna.

That only works on this transition year to two divisions. There won't be a combined top 24 at the end of 2012 to use for 2013 preliminary auto-qualifications.

Dhomochevsky 2011-12-31 15:13

Will Nova and Stella not face off in the end to get a final winner?

If not, why? Is there such a huge fanbase behind certain old characters?

RegalStar 2011-12-31 15:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Team Rocket Elite (Post 3926919)
Will returning iDOLM@STER characters be considered Stella or Nova? It was a gap of slightly under 4 years between the end of Xenoglossia and the new series.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2012
Series which are set in alternate universes and may have characters who share the same name but differ in other traits will be considered on a case-by-case basis by Staff.

I'm going to assume that this rule will come into play when determining idolmaster characters's status.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dhomochevsky (Post 3926926)
Will Nova and Stella not face off in the end to get a final winner?

If not, why? Is there such a huge fanbase behind certain old characters?

The necklace showdown is common, so the top 3 characters in both divisions, plus the better ranked of the 4th character in either division will all compete for a single necklace. There will also be additional 1v1 exhibition matches between characters of two divisions that do not affect anything. Also, after each division's own SE tournament come to an end, the top 8 participants in both divisions will join together for a single SE tournament aiming for the tiara.

Team Rocket Elite 2011-12-31 15:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dhomochevsky (Post 3926926)
Will Nova and Stella not face off in the end to get a final winner?

If not, why? Is there such a huge fanbase behind certain old characters?

The top 8 from Nova and Top 8 from Stella was face off in a final single elimination tournament to crown the champion.

Sackett 2011-12-31 15:28

Hmmm, who to nominate...

I think Madoka and Homura will get in without my nomination vote.

Spoiler for Certain to Nominate:


That leaves me with four slots left.

Spoiler for 27 on my maybe list:


A big mix of old and new in there. The new split divisions is giving me the feeling that some new "old" characters might be viable this year. Last year you only needed 93 votes to make it past the nomination.

I'm wondering if most of the nominations are made in the "Nova" field, if that will leave the "Stella" field with a lower nomination threshold. Or will it be vice versa?

KholdStare 2011-12-31 15:43

So guys, Fate will make Top 16 this year!

@Sackett: Some of us think that Stella will have more nominations.

wontaek 2011-12-31 17:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Team Rocket Elite (Post 3926919)
Will returning iDOLM@STER characters be considered Stella or Nova? It was a gap of slightly under 4 years between the end of Xenoglossia and the new series.



That only works on this transition year to two divisions. There won't be a combined top 24 at the end of 2012 to use for 2013 preliminary auto-qualifications.

They will be considered as Nova. Also, if we waive the alternate universe rule to force Idolmaster to be placed in Stella ( thus meaning proper interpretation of the rules says Idolmaster is Nova ), I know several Koreans and also several other people from English Anime fans that will threaten to harm all the staff members.

Demi. 2011-12-31 17:06

Nova might have more nominations since people will probably have the mindset of nominating new characters(And the fact that most of the top tier stella characters are already auto qualified...while I imagine a few new Nova characters might be heavy hitters...but only a few), but they'll have fewer overall votes otherwise. They will win 2 necklaces at most with Kanade guaranteed to win one of the two.

That's my prediction anyways.

Game8910 2011-12-31 17:14

While the old characters now have their own section to indulge themselves, I like to keep my nominations fresh every year even if I like some of the older characters and will most likely support them more overall.

These are my confirmed nominations
1. Elsie - Kami nomi
2. Haqua - Kami nomi
3. Kanon - Kami nomi
4. Yune - Ikoku Meiro
5. Sana - Mashiro Iro
6. Sena - Boku wa Tomodachi
7. Ohana - Hanasaku Iroha

8-12 are open slots if anyone wants to remind me of good characters (keep it 2011) I might like to add (or trade if you nominate some of the ones I picked above SPECIALLY THE TOP 3)

Team Rocket Elite 2011-12-31 17:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by wontaek (Post 3927015)
They will be considered as Nova. Also, if we wave the alternate universe rule to force Idolmaster to be placed in Stella ( thus meaning proper interpretation of the rules says Idolmaster is Nova ), I know several Koreans and also several other people from English Anime fans that will threaten to harm all the staff members.

Xenoglossia exists! Don't let the haters say otherwise! But seriously, I think it's probably the right the decision to have them in Nova.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demi. (Post 3927020)
Nova might have more nominations since people will probably have the mindset of nominating new characters(And the fact that most of the top tier stella characters are already auto qualified...while I imagine a few new Nova characters might be heavy hitters...but only a few), but they'll have fewer overall votes otherwise. They will win 2 necklaces at most with Kanade guaranteed to win one of the two.

That's my prediction anyways.

There's only 5 necklaces so a 2-3 split between Nova and Stella is pretty much the ideal with neither side dominating. Well maybe not if the two Nova winners are Kanade and Kuroneko who have both won necklaces before and no one else for Nova gets close.

chaosprophet 2011-12-31 17:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Team Rocket Elite (Post 3926919)
That only works on this transition year to two divisions. There won't be a combined top 24 at the end of 2012 to use for 2013 preliminary auto-qualifications.

It still won`t be simply if the priority is an equal number of contestants for both divisions. After all, some of the Nova characters of an year becomes Stella characters in the next.

Demi. 2011-12-31 18:02

Quote:

There's only 5 necklaces so a 2-3 split between Nova and Stella is pretty much the ideal with neither side dominating. Well maybe not if the two Nova winners are Kanade and Kuroneko who have both won necklaces before and no one else for Nova gets close.
That's pretty much what I'm expecting since I think Homura will be the strongest new contender this year...Even if I think her performance against Kuroneko is way above what her norm will be in the regular season...But if I consider that to be her true strength, then I think she will be the best of the new contestants. If it's not...then I don't really know.

But even Kuroneko has a good chance of not winning a necklace when there is only 5 necklaces to win. I don't think she's the fifth strongest character...Close, but not quite.

ppaaccoojrf 2011-12-31 18:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Game8910 (Post 3927027)
These are my confirmed nominations
1. Elsie - Kami nomi
2. Haqua - Kami nomi
3. Kanon - Kami nomi
4. Yune - Ikoku Meiro
5. Sana - Mashiro Iro
6. Sena - Boku wa Tomodachi

7. Ohana - Hanasaku Iroha

You, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Game8910 (Post 3927027)
8-12 are open slots if anyone wants to remind me of good characters (keep it 2011) I might like to add (or trade if you nominate some of the ones I picked above SPECIALLY THE TOP 3)

How about Yuru-Yuri characters? Though I'd think they'd get there anyway... I would seriously appreciate Wanko from Majikoi or Minami from BakaTest.


Spoiler for Confirmed List:
I'm not including Kurisu because I figure she doesn't need my vote, but I hope not too many people think that way.

Spoiler for "Maybe" List:

Eater of All 2011-12-31 18:18

Five years... I remember when I used to be young.

So for nominations, my list is already set.

Makise Kurisu - Steins;Gate
Christina - Steins;Gate
Assistant - Steins;Gate
2channer - Steins;Gate
The Zombie - Steins;Gate

What? What do you mean, that's illegal? :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demi. (Post 3927069)
That's pretty much what I'm expecting since I think Homura will be the strongest new contender this year...Even if I think her performance against Kuroneko is way above what her norm will be in the regular season...But if I consider that to be her true strength, then I think she will be the best of the new contestants. If it's not...then I don't really know.

But even Kuroneko has a good chance of not winning a necklace when there is only 5 necklaces to win. I don't think she's the fifth strongest character...Close, but not quite.

If Kuroneko isn't 5th this year, I highly doubt she will be in 2012. Newcomers always weaken at a faster rate than veterans.

Team Rocket Elite 2011-12-31 18:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eater of All (Post 3927077)
If Kuroneko isn't 5th this year, I highly doubt she will be in 2012. Newcomers always weaken at a faster rate than veterans.

This isn't always true. Sometimes exceptions show up.

2009 - 7th
2010 - 6th
2011 - 5th

And Taiga did that with absolutely nothing in terms of new material.

ppaaccoojrf 2011-12-31 18:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eater of All (Post 3927077)
So for nominations, my list is already set.

Makise Kurisu - Steins;Gate
Christina - Steins;Gate
Assistant - Steins;Gate
2channer - Steins;Gate
Za Zombie - Steins;Gate
Laboratory Member No. 4 - Steins;Gate
Chestnut Rice and Kamehameha - Steins;Gate

Fix'd and improved.

RegalStar 2011-12-31 18:52

All veterans were new at some point in time, remember.

RegalStar 2011-12-31 19:10

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y13...nomination.png


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