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Pellissier 2007-07-23 06:17

[Manga] Chapter 364 Discussion
Welcome to the weekly manga chapter discussion thread. This thread is created early to discuss spoilers and speculation about the upcoming chapter.

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Originally Posted by Summary translated by Sho
Itachi and Kisame are standing in the rain
Kisame- It's a pity about your brother.
Itachi- He's not dead.

Sasuke's group has stopped at an inn
While he was able to get information on Akatsuki, Suigetsu informs them that there's none to be had on Itachi
Apparently each Akatsuki has a special chakra which animals respond to.
Karin and Suigetsu get in a quarrel afterwards. The scene ends with Juugo's berserk rage being quelled.

Naruto and co. are gathered where Deidara blew himself up
Kakashi says that traceable signs of Sasuke are present by scent, but that the trail goes cold there.
But with Kiba's amazing sense of smell, he's able to discover Sasuke's scent.
Kakashi- "For his nose to surpass that of the nin-ken (ninja dogs)...he truly is one of the Inuzuka family."

Akatsuki hideout
The mastermind explains various things to Pain and the woman

Mastermind- "There's little left in order to achieve our that case everything shall go to it's rightful place."
We know that the mastermind is Tobi when the back is (lit up?) by thunder/lightning.

Tobi- "The Sharingan's true power...that of my power, Uchiha Madara."
From the opening of his mask, the Sharingan is visible.

0TaKu0 2007-07-23 06:18

Bah Pellissier you were late to respond to my PM T_T, but thanks for creating the thread rep for you. <3!!!!!

w00t guys, It's that time again, this spoiler picture is apprently, confirmed by Himajin even though its not on 2chan yet. (btw the person that posted it (tymemyst @ MH), spells Himajin's name as "hajminjn" and xi0 corrects him)

Spoiler for Naruto Chapter 364 Spoiler Pic:

Haha! That’s right bitches, he's alive! (Even though I believe Tobi to be alive, I have my doubts on this spoiler pic)

Also, this was posted by the Mod at MH.


I'm assuming when he says Naruto, he means the character Sweets! Also maybe we will see Pein and BH's (Blue Hair's) Colors!

Hir0 2007-07-23 06:24


lol nice spoiler pic, how come it came out so early?

Pellissier 2007-07-23 06:28


Originally Posted by 0TaKu0 (Post 1056088)
Bah Pellissier you were late to respond to my PM T_T

Late? Rigth now it's 1:30 pm and I was having lunch, sorry if I live in Europe :heh:

Glad to be of help, anyway ;)

0TaKu0 2007-07-23 06:31


Originally Posted by Hir0 (Post 1056091)
lol nice spoiler pic, how come it came out so early?

To be honest, I'm surprised as well. However, it does say it was confirmed by Himajin (apprently). . . but the Mod @ MH has a difference of opinion.

Mod @ MH -> "My opinion is this is a fake because of the fake-looking noise and because I haven't seen it posted at 2ch. >xi0"

I would have to agree with the Mod @ MH, the noise does look photoshopped, and every spoiler almost always gets posted on 2ch before anything, not to mention it is really really early, but who knows it could just be a really bad scan, and there is a first for everything.

Also right now they are trying to find out if this is a fake which chapters this picture could have been made from.


Originally Posted by Pellissier (Post 1056093)
Late? Rigth now it's 1:30 pm and I was having lunch, sorry if I live in Europe :heh:

Glad to be of help, anyway ;)

Thanks for un-sticking Chapter 361 discussion thread, Your sig and avatar is so cute <3. Hope you had a good lunch :p~


Gomugomu @ MH thinks the top part (Naruto) is from c291 without the bubbles and Theshizzle @ MH thinks the bottom part (Tobi) is from c318 p12 however is not sure.

My opinion, this picture is 99.9% fake. Also, considering xi0's comment on Naruto "Next Week" if its true, and there is no Naruto this week, this picture is definitely fake. (However, Hexa @ NF says there is a chapter this week)

Oh there are also these pictures going around the net,


mahbod 2007-07-23 08:08


nine_tailed_kyuubi 2007-07-23 09:39

seems that we will see a new ability different from the sharingan and byakugan, there has got to be something behind those eyes, anyway if Naruto faces him so soon it is time for Naruto to show us his true power, i think Naruto might reveal a new movement that he learned from jiraya after the time skip, there has got to be something that he is saving for his strongest opponents.

Anyway i think that no one can defeat Pein right now unless Naruto do something really amazing and unexpected and it seems that they are related, if Naruto will lose we might see Jiraya interfering, Jiraya is always updated with the news and will never let Naruto suffer.

Kenu 2007-07-23 10:02


Originally Posted by 0TaKu0 (Post 1056097)

Spoiler for More spoiler pictures for Naruto Chapter 364:



Pein: Behold the strength of my eyes!

That Other Ninja 2007-07-23 10:03

All those skeptics jumping the gun the minute someone "seems" dead. I knew he wasn't dead, just like I know Orochimaru isn't gone from the story yet.


Originally Posted by 0TaKu0 (Post 1056097)

That one looks fake. The lineart doesn't match what we saw in the last chapter of Pein's depiction. He looks younger and the expression seems forced.

ChojinLocke 2007-07-23 10:04

Well we dont know what kind of abilities Pein/Pain has or what elements he uses in his fights so it is impossible to say for sure if Naruto will definitely lose. And let's not forget that with Naruto the seemingly impossible becomes possible sometimes. But for sure he has to a) survive even if he loses and gets captured and b) show some new moves (not necessarily versatility but at least some kind of progress he made in his almost 3 years with Jiraiya).

Edit: The leader's eyes: Another genjutsu expert?

That Other Ninja 2007-07-23 10:12


Originally Posted by ChojinLocke (Post 1056331)
Edit: The leader's eyes: Another genjutsu expert?

I hope not. So boring if it is.

hidantheimmortal 2007-07-23 10:33

Ok when the AL was revealed I got sorta bored but I figured something out there for sure is 2ALs there is one difference you try and figure it out yourself.

That Other Ninja 2007-07-23 11:14


Originally Posted by hidantheimmortal (Post 1056399)
Ok when the AL was revealed I got sorta bored but I figured something out there for sure is 2ALs there is one difference you try and figure it out yourself.

There aren't two leaders. In the recent chapter, the shadowy figure urging Pein to capture Naruto says "As the leader, failure will not be accepted" or something along those lines. He refers to Pein as the leader of Akatsuki, therefore there aren't two leaders.

ZGoten 2007-07-23 11:31

Yeah, but the shadowy figure is maybe something like the second Leader. I could imgagine him being the real Leader, who tricked his subordinates with a false leader (Pain), so that hes got time to follow his own plans.

Im sure its something like this...and I can imagine Itachi as the only one who is seeing through this trick.

itachi29al 2007-07-23 11:44

Top one is fake for sure. That Naruto picture is the splitting image of one in chapter page 14 in the middle. Just take away the bubbles and you got it, the dark whiskers the hanging arm everything. But the Tobi one i am not too sure is fake. I looked at all the Tobi pictures and none are proportioned right with that one. The closest i got were the one with tobi lying on the three tails but all of those either were zoomed to far into his head or zoomed out too far. Plus you can sort see clouds in the background which he is lieing makes not sense.

That Other Ninja 2007-07-23 11:45

I see it more as a cooperative partnership with someone outside the organization, or someone personally involved in Pein's life like an over-bearing parent-figure still controlling their child.

gibits 2007-07-23 11:58

Tobi survives too!? Wow so DD's blast did jack shit. That has got to be the slowest explosion ever for 2 people at point blank range to survive.

Honestly both pictures look fake, and I would not take them as the real thing till its out. A long panel of Naruto and Tobi just standing is something very easy to make.

Kowai 2007-07-23 12:17


Originally Posted by 0TaKu0 (Post 1056097)


Originally Posted by ChojinLocke (Post 1056331)

Edit: The leader's eyes: Another genjutsu expert?

not particularly skilled at reading kanji but it does say something about his eyes having power... personally i would not be upset with another eye genjutsu user because it might balance out the sharingan a bit.

my trans :"See my eyes power" "watashi no mi no chikara wo miru"

Sarugaki 2007-07-23 12:26

New doujutsu = Nice !!!
I wonder how those eyes match-up against the sharingan.

That Other Ninja 2007-07-23 12:35

Watch it kick sharingan's ass.

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