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Forum: Umineko 2015-08-31, 19:25
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Posted By turlingdrome
Hmm, okay. But that still leaves the problem that...

Hmm, okay. But that still leaves the problem that Erika didn't respond to Battler's red correctly.

If "Yasu" made the call, and we're shown Shannon and Kanon in the list of cleared suspects, then...
Forum: Umineko 2015-08-30, 21:18
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Posted By turlingdrome
Yes, that last red of Erika's. Unfortunately,...

Yes, that last red of Erika's. Unfortunately, Battler overestimated her, and that's why she didn't even hesitate. Because she totally should have.

First off, Battler already knows she has the name...
Forum: Umineko 2015-08-30, 18:15
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Posted By turlingdrome
jjblue1, it sounds like you're ignoring that...

jjblue1, it sounds like you're ignoring that Natsuhi didn't know about the trouble the other siblings were in. That part of the plan, Krauss was very careful to keep hidden from her in all the games....
Forum: Umineko 2015-08-30, 10:44
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Posted By turlingdrome
Sorry, first want to comment on jjblue1. Okay,...

Sorry, first want to comment on jjblue1. Okay, you win that point, since Battler could probably be tricked into thinking what you said. Though I think Battler's much smarter than we give him credit...
Forum: Umineko 2015-08-30, 00:38
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Posted By turlingdrome
Wow, feel like an idiot. I heard about the...

Wow, feel like an idiot. I heard about the answers in the manga EP8, but assumed they were only in the chapters titled "confession", and didn't read much beyond that. Just checked up on that section,...
Forum: Umineko 2015-08-29, 15:46
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Posted By turlingdrome
Do we have a source for that quote? Sorry, I've...

Do we have a source for that quote? Sorry, I've missed out on most of the omake and later interviews.

Going by the translation given there though, the key point to me seems to be the "is not...
Forum: Umineko 2015-08-29, 10:19
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Posted By turlingdrome
Well, I think it's pretty clear even in context...

Well, I think it's pretty clear even in context that the line's talking about a Gameboard motive, but I won't press the point.


More importantly, it sounds like you're saying Battler was in on...
Forum: Umineko 2015-08-29, 00:13
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Posted By turlingdrome
Her goal is not to make someone experience fear....

Her goal is not to make someone experience fear. And it isn't to have revenge on someone either.
Forum: Umineko 2015-08-28, 19:12
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Posted By turlingdrome
Definitely, Natsuhi did enough to make Yasu hate...

Definitely, Natsuhi did enough to make Yasu hate her a lot. And Yasu clearly had a motive to write a story where she took revenge against Natsuhi. But as you're saying yourself, that's a temporary...
Forum: Umineko 2015-08-28, 16:06
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Posted By turlingdrome
I could definitely see Yasu pulling a prank on...

I could definitely see Yasu pulling a prank on Natsuhi to get back at her, but the cruelty in those calls goes far beyond any of her prior witch pranks. Plus, it sounds like you're implying she...
Forum: Umineko 2015-08-28, 11:21
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Posted By turlingdrome
Thanks for the detailed answers. On this point...

Thanks for the detailed answers.
On this point though, I can't say I'm convinced. Let's use chessboard thinking on Ryuukishi... Clearly, he's trying to show us a game without love, but why on...
Forum: Umineko 2015-08-27, 21:58
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Posted By turlingdrome
On the whole it makes sense to me and seems to...

On the whole it makes sense to me and seems to fit with Umineko's message.

However, every time this topic comes up, someone says "I don't think Yasu really would have done it in prime." And I...
Forum: Umineko 2015-08-27, 17:38
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Posted By turlingdrome
I'm no expert on Japanese attitudes to suicide,...

I'm no expert on Japanese attitudes to suicide, but I'm pretty sure that no sane person in modern Japan views involuntary mass suicides as a gray area.



The key phrase being "more or less in...
Forum: Umineko 2015-08-26, 13:58
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Posted By turlingdrome
I agree Yasu had lots of tools, but I don't see...

I agree Yasu had lots of tools, but I don't see how any of those things would allow her to launch an assault on the family conference.
Like you said, Genji's the only one likely to actually take a...
Forum: Umineko 2015-08-26, 13:04
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Posted By turlingdrome
I'm not too sure about EP4's solution myself, but...

I'm not too sure about EP4's solution myself, but it's probably worth considering why EP4 is so different from the other games. It can't be coincidence that suddenly the crimes start earlier, and...
Forum: Umineko 2015-08-20, 15:09
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Posted By turlingdrome
Honestly, the best way to figure out the...

Honestly, the best way to figure out the gameboard side of Umineko is Agatha Christie books. I know at least 7 that are extremely helpful for Umineko, the best ones being, in order:
The ABC Murders...
Forum: Umineko 2015-08-16, 17:44
Replies: 35,614
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Posted By turlingdrome
There's also the question of what meta characters...

There's also the question of what meta characters are allowed to do, Game Master or otherwise. In EP1-4, it's a story about how a single gameboard person creates an illusion involving everyone, so...
Forum: Umineko 2015-08-16, 01:55
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Posted By turlingdrome
Erika might not have gotten the whole thing right...

Erika might not have gotten the whole thing right then, but I think her final red text is pretty solid evidence that she figured the Shkanon part.
Forum: Umineko 2015-08-15, 12:56
Replies: 35,614
Views: 5,786,333
Posted By turlingdrome
Battler couldn't solve the logic error without...

Battler couldn't solve the logic error without exposing Shkanon, Beatrice's greatest secret, without her permission. That's why only a revived Beatrice had the right to resolve the logic error.
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Forum: Umineko 2015-08-15, 11:55
Replies: 35,614
Views: 5,786,333
Posted By turlingdrome
In EP3, Evatrice challenges Battler to explain...

In EP3, Evatrice challenges Battler to explain why Kyrie went to the mansion, demanding evidence. If we need to use evidence to explain the motive behind a single action by a side character, then...
Forum: Umineko 2015-08-14, 13:54
Replies: 35,614
Views: 5,786,333
Posted By turlingdrome
I agree on that point. My issue is more with...

I agree on that point.
My issue is more with whether she would have committed the murders if someone didn't stop her.

If we're pretty sure that real world Yasu wouldn't actually have been willing...
Forum: Umineko 2015-08-14, 09:14
Replies: 35,614
Views: 5,786,333
Posted By turlingdrome
Not sure we can be that vague about it. If the...

Not sure we can be that vague about it. If the gameboards truly depict Yasu's character, then she must have attempted it in real life. Otherwise, Ryuukishi is admitting that the culprit in the...
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