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Forum: Boku wa Tomodachi... 2013-02-18, 03:52
Replies: 189
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Posted By frivolity
That ship has sailed long ago. There has already...

That ship has sailed long ago. There has already been extensive discussion over the last few pages about the approach I gave, and I've already explained why Kodaka is not the best person for us to...
Forum: Boku wa Tomodachi... 2013-02-17, 08:21
Replies: 189
Views: 41,213
Posted By frivolity
No, what I was referring to was that Yozora...

No, what I was referring to was that Yozora probably felt guilty because she now knew that Sena viewed her as an important person. It is not a normative statement about what Yozora should do or feel,...
Forum: Boku wa Tomodachi... 2013-02-17, 07:57
Replies: 189
Views: 41,213
Posted By frivolity
I wasn't referring to Yozora considering Sena as...

I wasn't referring to Yozora considering Sena as a friend, I was referring to the reverse - that Sena considered Yozora as someone important to her, and was hurt by Yozora's actions. Yozora, not...
Forum: Boku wa Tomodachi... 2013-02-17, 07:43
Replies: 189
Views: 41,213
Posted By frivolity
It would be expected that Sena took the fortune...

It would be expected that Sena took the fortune reading seriously. If she seriously believed that the hair prank made her look good, then the reasonable inference is that she would have believed in...
Forum: Boku wa Tomodachi... 2013-02-17, 07:35
Replies: 189
Views: 41,213
Posted By frivolity
Alternatively, maybe Yozora is starting to...

Alternatively, maybe Yozora is starting to change, even if it's just a little bit. It could mean that she recognises that she had gone too far in her prank, and sees that her actions have more impact...
Forum: Boku wa Tomodachi... 2013-02-17, 07:20
Replies: 189
Views: 41,213
Posted By frivolity
Ok, so how would you explain their interaction in...

Ok, so how would you explain their interaction in the latest episode, when Sena was clearly hurt that the person she trusted as a friend ended up betraying her? As well as the close up of Yozora's...
Forum: Boku wa Tomodachi... 2013-02-17, 06:49
Replies: 189
Views: 41,213
Posted By frivolity
Now we're getting somewhere! You're finally...

Now we're getting somewhere! You're finally getting it!

Yes, such a character does not exist. As I said, such a character is merely a theoretical construct and forms a base for us to debate. Yes,...
Forum: Boku wa Tomodachi... 2013-02-17, 06:17
Replies: 189
Views: 41,213
Posted By frivolity
Now, I'm not talking about actually creating a...

Now, I'm not talking about actually creating a character here. I'm talking about projecting our views from the theoretical construct of such a character so that we can have rigorous debate while...
Forum: Boku wa Tomodachi... 2013-02-17, 03:37
Replies: 189
Views: 41,213
Posted By frivolity
No, it is not the same as an outsider's view. The...

No, it is not the same as an outsider's view. The concept I'm trying to get at is a reasonable view of a flexible hypothetical someone in-universe, who knows these characters sufficiently well. The...
Forum: Boku wa Tomodachi... 2013-02-17, 03:10
Replies: 189
Views: 41,213
Posted By frivolity
I'm trying to push for a more objective standard...

I'm trying to push for a more objective standard that everyone can identify with, so that we can all be on the same page. Just look at the discussion in this thread over the issue of whether or not...
Forum: Boku wa Tomodachi... 2013-02-17, 00:11
Replies: 189
Views: 41,213
Posted By frivolity
Kodaka isn't necessarily the best person to use...

Kodaka isn't necessarily the best person to use as a gauge in determing whether or not Yozora's actions constitute bullying. It would probably be better to look at it from the perspective of an...
Forum: Boku wa Tomodachi... 2013-02-16, 02:09
Replies: 189
Views: 41,213
Posted By frivolity
I think we may need a clearer demarkation of what...

I think we may need a clearer demarkation of what is considered right and wrong in the context of the show since the arguments about the characters' actions seem to be occurring on very different...
Forum: Boku wa Tomodachi... 2013-02-15, 18:21
Replies: 189
Views: 41,213
Posted By frivolity
Certain events in the episode have to taken with...

Certain events in the episode have to taken with a grain of salt considering the context of the show as a comedy, and to some extent a romantic comedy. If we look at other shows such as ZnT, for...
Forum: Boku wa Tomodachi... 2013-02-15, 06:12
Replies: 189
Views: 41,213
Posted By frivolity
I actually think that Yozora does enjoy the...

I actually think that Yozora does enjoy the torment of the prank victim to some extent. She does have her limits of course, as seen from her reaction at Sena's hurt response to the fortune telling...
Forum: Boku wa Tomodachi... 2013-02-15, 04:36
Replies: 189
Views: 41,213
Posted By frivolity
Fair point as well, although I personally don't...

Fair point as well, although I personally don't like the idea of overcompensating on one side just to make up for the other. I prefer taking a more independent approach (or as independent as...
Forum: Boku wa Tomodachi... 2013-02-15, 04:12
Replies: 189
Views: 41,213
Posted By frivolity
Lol, that wasn't my point at all. My point was...

Lol, that wasn't my point at all. My point was that we're not observing these guys in a vacuum where just because all of them are flawed that means everything should be ignored. There is a reason why...
Forum: Boku wa Tomodachi... 2013-02-15, 04:04
Replies: 189
Views: 41,213
Posted By frivolity
Well from reading this thread, it seems to me...

Well from reading this thread, it seems to me that Sena is the one being blamed for being gullible, with few acknowledging that Yozora's prank was mean-spirited.
Forum: Boku wa Tomodachi... 2013-02-15, 03:55
Replies: 189
Views: 41,213
Posted By frivolity
Well if we're going to say that not being mean is...

Well if we're going to say that not being mean is inapplicable to the kids in the Neighbours' Club, then nothing can be said of any of them because the things we perceive to be flaws don't apply.
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Forum: Boku wa Tomodachi... 2013-02-15, 03:42
Replies: 189
Views: 41,213
Posted By frivolity
Lol, is there really a need to answer this...

Lol, is there really a need to answer this question? A should not follow through with the prank because of the possible harm to B. In this case, the harm would be the hurt feelings on Sena's part,...
Forum: Boku wa Tomodachi... 2013-02-15, 03:25
Replies: 189
Views: 41,213
Posted By frivolity
I never said that B (or Sena in this case) should...

I never said that B (or Sena in this case) should be absolved. My post explicitly stated that Sena's gullibility was one of her weak points. My point is that A, knowing B's gullibility, should not...
Forum: Boku wa Tomodachi... 2013-02-15, 03:19
Replies: 189
Views: 41,213
Posted By frivolity
My point has nothing to do with tip-toeing or...

My point has nothing to do with tip-toeing or crying whatsoever. My argument is that if A knows that B is gullible, but decides to trick B, knowing full well about the consequences, then the wrong...
Forum: Boku wa Tomodachi... 2013-02-15, 03:08
Replies: 189
Views: 41,213
Posted By frivolity
Her known weakness is her gullibility, and this...

Her known weakness is her gullibility, and this is shown from the hair prank incident. The most that should have been done is to play a trick on her, but not actually following through with it....
Forum: Boku wa Tomodachi... 2013-02-15, 02:41
Replies: 189
Views: 41,213
Posted By frivolity
I would argue that the fact that Yozora is aware...

I would argue that the fact that Yozora is aware that Sena is gullible actually makes the pranking worse. It's not the same as one of those candid camera pranks where nobody knows beforehand whether...
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