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Originally Posted by james3wk
Zabuza was not even Kage-level when he was kicked out of Mist, and Kakashi had a hard time with him. He literally froze-up when Orochimaru simply talked to him. I am sorry, but Kakashi was not Kage-level pre-Time Skip. Presently, he is extremely close.
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Kakashi didnīt have a hard time at all. Maybe in their first battle, when he underestimated Zabuza. However during the second fight, Kakashi was just playing around with Zabuza, until he had to finish it.
About Orochimaru you are right...but Oro is a ninja who literally outclassed sarutobi pre-time skip.
Believe me, there are several Kages and Kage level nins in narutoverse who would shit their pants while facing Oro.
Post time skip I think Kakashi is really close to Oroīs power, since Kakashi greately improved and Orochimaru didnīt have the opportunity to become stronger...
I know I am the "outsider" with having this opinion about Kakashi, but...somewhen youīll see.^^