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Old 2010-04-25, 23:04   Link #24546
deathcurse
Queen of Tragedy
 
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Place of rocks and trees, and trees and rocks...and water.
Age: 33
Holy cow...... @_@ I'm so flattered at all the comments, but whew! *rolls up sleeves*

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Originally Posted by RadiantBeam View Post
Heh, I like. The interaction between Alto and Teana is very nice, friendly but at times a little awkward, which is really what you would expect considering what point Teana is at with her life at this moment. It's also very sweet to see how uncertain she is about seeing Subaru; that she wants to see her, but at the same time she knows things will be different because they've both changed. It's also nice to see her acknowledge that yes, she messed up, and she should have had the guts.

And on the ending.... personally, I like it, but either way I think you're going to have no choice over how people interpret the ending. It's just something that will happen regardless of what you do either way.
Thanks, I really wanted that awkward feel to be persistent throughout the whole story. My feeling of Teana is that she's still learning about being herself and she's trying to like the person that she's found herself to be .

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I got to agree with RB here. Heck, all my comments were my interpretations on it. Just pick what you feel is the right one and stick with it.
Well, in a way, I wanted Teana to be sorry about the wrong decisions she made, but more in terms of basically taking the easy way out and agreeing instead of making up her own mind for herself . And so what I was hoping to get at was not so much making the wrong decision between Vice and Subaru, but between the easy, "Just say yes" choice and the "think about it hard--is this what you really want?" choice .

Ahhh, but you all make such good points!

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Originally Posted by 00-Raiser View Post
The scene with Alto is nice *nods* Good addition.

The added line to the ending... hmm... I dunno, if anything I think it makes the possibility of Subaru falling for her again even more valid since Teana had to stop and consider it. I think you should emphasize that it was just a joke and they both understand it won't actually happen.
I had some trouble expressing that....sort of that moment when someone says something that potentially could make you uncomfortable, but you let it go and make a joke and the whole awkward moment moves on . That's the feel I was trying for that line.

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EDIT: I utterly cannot believe how much changed since I started typing up this post! I swear, I got ninja'd by eight posts including an updated version of the story I'm commenting about! *facepalm*

(She also had another romantic relationship with another girl before Dawn.) Noted, however, that it isn't necessary to hook either one of them up with one of their previous lovers (Vice or Dawn). Just that in the year and a half since the two of them broke up with their existing relationships, either could have gotten involved in a long-term, committed relationship. No need for them to go back to someone else.

See, the problem here is that deathcurse's author's note indicated that she was trying very strongly for an open-ended resolution (a sort of "life-goes-on" ending) in which Teana ends up with neither Vice nor Subaru. Basically, she (Tea) was indecisive, didn't understand or properly confront her own feelings for either of them, and ended up with neither one. Maybe she was commitment-shy, or maybe she, ultimately, wasn't really and truly in love with either of them. Subaru (Story 1 and 3) leaves Tea because Subaru wasn't ready to wait around for someone who didn't have anything for her. Vice (Story 3) explicitly said that he was, but eventually got tired of giving more than he was receiving in the relationship...
I know, I was amazed at how fast people replied!

You pinned the point right on the head ...I don't mean to have Teana be "punished", but like you said, accepting the consequences of her indecisiveness and lack of confronting her own feelings.

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But the problem is that things are open to interpretation. Consider the following:

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So what I bring away from it is the impression that Subaru never fell out of love with Teana, despite the separation, and that Tea wants to start over because this time she intends to respond to Subaru's feelings instead of stringing her along, never confronting them.
I realize that Teana's injury was also Subaru's major life-changing moment too , but you're right! That was totally unintentional.

I did want Teana with Subaru's family because I felt that Teana, with no family of her own, appeared to have sort of taken on Subaru's family as her own...and after basically resetting her life, I thought that she might need that love and support from close friends and family (and since "close friends" Subaru, Caro and Erio are all off-world, Fate has her own family, Vice is now ex-husband....I really could only think of Subaru's family as possible support system for Teana )

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So how to fix it (if deathcurse decides that she wants to do so)?

My #1 suggestion would be to get rid of Subaru's return visit during Tea's coma. The fact that she dropped everything to come visit Tea speaks of unresolved feelings. The fact that she didn't wait around for Tea to wait up and made sure that Tea didn't even know that she was there especially suggests that. If she'd just come to visit because she was worried as a friend, she'd have left a video card or flowers or something--sneaking out so Tea didn't even know she was there is the single biggest thing in the entire story that suggests to me that Subaru still has her feelings for Tea--if she didn't have the feelings that caused her to run away to Daphne, then there wouldn't be any reason for her to continue to enforce the separation, would there? Since Subaru staying during the coma is impossible for the story structure--which centers around a new, first-time reunion--then her return visit is what could change.
This is good food for thought....if I had Subaru leave flowers or a teddy bear or something, which Teana thought was just mailed to her, would that maybe diffuse the tension some? It still works with the rest of what I have, since Teana might actually be more upset that her best friend "didn't even bother showing up to visit"?

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My #3 suggestion would be to give Subaru a girlfriend. Hell, give her a wife. Why make Dawn dump her (though honestly...I can so see Dawn's point here; Dawn comes to exactly the same conclusion that I did about Subaru's feelings) at all? Tea is the one who's making the Big Life Change in this story. Subaru made her decision ten years back in story time; leaving her still single makes it look like she's been in a holding pattern all this time instead of really making her decision and growing as a person because of it. There's a ton of romance stories out there where a couple knows one another, then are separated (either by random events or their own stupidity or whatever), and come back after a number of years to get together. RadiantBeam and I have recently been discussing Nora Roberts' Black Hills, in which just that happens...Why not just make Subaru move on like she intended to do when she moved out?
I wanted Subaru to have dated and such during the ten years to show that she's moved on , but I didn't want her (or Teana, for that matter) to have a current relationship because then with the kind of awkward conversation they already have at the moment, I felt like their attempts to connect would just shut down on that. Even just as friends, there's a whole jealousy and sadness and possessiveness that good friends have on each other, which would put way too much emotion into a scene that was supposed to be about just them trying to get to know each other once more .

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Originally Posted by DezoPenguin View Post
Nothing wrong with the new scene, but it doesn't address at all what (to me) was the main problem--Subaru's feelings. I like it, though, for how it better cements Teana's genuine desire to move forward instead of being caught in the web of her own holding pattern.
Yeah, after reading your post I realize the complication of what Subaru's feelings appear to be , but I'm glad that Teana's conflicts are pretty well tied up now.
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