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Old 2010-06-04, 14:41   Link #10803
DgBarca
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Originally Posted by SeagullCrazy View Post
Sorry, but Genji, Kumasawa, and Nanjo are not murderers . At the time it was spoken it was referring to EP1, so you can't really argue this one.
(it was said by Lambda to counter Battler's idea that the three killed each other)



Because of the same red text, Kumasawa isn't a murderer. The only one in your theory that could have killed them was Kanon.

Which isn't really a new theory for the second twilight, but it's one of the more popular ones. Examining each person's alibi again:

Kinzo: Dead
Krauss: Identifiable corpse, and Battler clearly sees it. That means he's dead.
Eva: The victim, and she didn't commit suicide after committing murder.
Rudolf: Unidentifiable corpse, but his identity is guaranteed. That means he's dead.
Rosa: Unidentifiable corpse, but her identity is guaranteed. That means she's dead.
Jessica: With Battler in the parlor at the time. The only time she could have killed them was when Kanon was injured, and she was out of Battler's sight. But Genji locked the room so she would need Kanon's key to enter and kill them. And the victims must have faked their deaths to be killed at that time. So I would say she's innocent.
George: With Battler in the parlor at the time. He was also with Battler until the very end. So I would say he's innocent.
Battler: He's the detective, so he didn't kill them.
Maria: With Battler in the parlor at the time. The only chance she could have killed them was after she was thrown out of the study. But Genji locked the room so she would need Kumasawa's key to enter and kill them. And the victims must have faked their deaths to be killed at that time. So I would say she's innocent.
Natsuhi: With Battler in the parlor at the time. She was also with Battler until the very end. So I would say she's innocent, if EP5 is any indication.
Hideyoshi: The victim, and he didn't commit suicide after committing murder.
Kyrie: Unidentifiable corpse, but her identity is guaranteed. That means she's dead.
Genji: He isn't a murderer.
Nanjo: He isn't a murderer.
Kumasawa: She isn't a murderer.
Gohda: Unidentifiable corpse, but his identity is guaranteed. That means he's dead.
Kanon: He was with Kumasawa at the time, but she could have lied, so it's possible he is the killer.
Shannon: Battler never saw her corpse, even though it is identifiable. Basically she could have faked her death, escaped from the storehouse using the window and killed them.

Jessica and Maria have very small windows of opportunity to kill them, but it makes things much more complicated.
Shannon and Kanon as culprits make it much simpler, but there isn't enough evidence to prove which one of them did it. At least, I haven't been able to find it.
Genji, Kumasawa, and Nanjo are not murderers was in EP1 ? and referring to all the murders ? I didn't remember. Well being the murderer won't mean that they are not accomplice, so the magic sign is still on.
...Well...Kanon is just the perfect murderer for EP1 But I don't find a motive for Genji, Kumasawa, and Nanjo death, George has the most important reason to kill them (by reasoning only them + Kanon could have kill Rva and Hideyoshi, and he think that Kanon is dead).

So...Kanon and Shannon for culprit in EP1...
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Krauss: Identifiable corpse, and Battler clearly sees it. That means he's dead.
Battler is incompetant. Krauss could have faked his death too, and be the mastermind (night shift)
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