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Originally Posted by chronotrig

And yet, you must admit that scenes have been hidden from us. After all, Kanon was said to have served Kinzo directly, from the time of his creation. We even hear that the two of them went shooting together a lot in EP6. And yet, EP7 gives us no hint of a casual meeting between the two of them until Kinzo's death. So, from the moment Kanon is created, it is very clear that many scenes are being hidden from us. In which case, we can't say with certainty whether or not the red guts scene was one of them.

I don't think those scenes were hidden from us, since that is information we already know. We known Shannon and Kanon are servants who were given the one-winged eagle, and who serve Kinzo directly. Of course, whether they actually served especially under Kinzo could be subject to doubt, and the whole one-winged eagle thing could have been there just to show that Shannon/Kanon was actually a part of the family.

But well, that aside, it'd make you wonder why Genji and Nanjo would inform Yasu about her injury before she solved the Epitaph. I mean, they definitely could, but it'd make you wonder why they would do such a thing. Genji wanted Yasu to solve the Epitaph; so, I assume he wanted her to be at her best mental condition. Thus, giving her this information before she solved it, would be rather counter-productive, I believe. Not to mention we never saw Yasu spend any time with Genji (other than when she was playing ShKanon) and Nanjo before she became the master.

Originally Posted by chronotrig

For your second point, Beatrice is still waiting for Battler, but we know that she was waiting for Battler until the final moment, or Battler's return wouldn't have counted as a motive for the crimes. However, at the exact same time Kanon is created, "Shannon" gives up on loving Battler, and passes that love on to the completely fictional character Beatrice. In other words, it looks like Yasu has decided to put her love for Battler on the back-burner, and to try and ignore it unless Battler does return.

Could we say she waited for him? Whilst I don't think she stopped loving him, I think most of what we've seen has been telling us she gave up on him. (Other than losing hope on Battler, I think this is due to her learning about her body's injury, and her developing the furniture complex.) She also had issues with her relationship with George and Jessica (in fact, from what Jessica told us, George and Shannon have been seeing each other for quite some time already, apparently, for more than a year; yet, from what we saw, Shannon and George's relationship didn't start moving until 1985), but something made her decide to actually move on with one of them. Of course, this something has been constantly suggested to be love - something Battler hadn't given to her.

Something I believe could imply that Yasu had given up on Battler could be Beatrice's behaviour in EP2. We saw Beatrice trying to get Shannon and Kanon on relationships with the people they loved. However, her true purpose was to see those relationships fail. Moreover, you could definitely find bitterness in her words whenever she spoke to Shannon by the end of EP2 - especially when they were speaking about love.

Originally Posted by chronotrig

No, this is more or less the opposite of what I'm suggesting. Genji and Nanjo couldn't just stick a fake penis on her. I'm not even sure how such a thing would be physically possible if the goal is to trick the person. They would have to convince her that they'd been forced to give her a sex change in the fall and rip her old one off, so to speak. They could then say that the lack was responsible for whatever feminine features Yasu has, but make the argument that she really is supposed to be a boy, and must appear as such for Kinzo's sake and to be taken seriously as the family head.

You couldn't tell a secret like this to a young girl and expect her to understand, much less keep it a secret to everyone. They couldn't tell her that she was Lion until she was old enough to keep secrets and understand what it would mean to be born a boy.

The only way this would work would be if Yasu suffers of amenorrhoea. I guess this could be possible if we assume her serious injury involved her uterus, and its possible removal. Then, yes, I can guess Genji and Nanjo could deceive her the way you say.

However, it does make you wonder if Genji would go to that extent. Sure, he is Kinzo's confident and most loyal servant, but even he knew that things like what Beatrice 2 went through were not good, and he didn't want Yasu to go through any experience that could make her suffer, just so that Kinzo would have things his way. So, I don't think he'd deceive Yasu in this fashion, since it'd be basically repeating these sort of mistakes. Sure, it's not the same thing as what Beatrice 2 went through, but he'd be basically making use of Yasu's life for Kinzo's sake.

It'd also makes you wonder if Kumasawa would allow them to deceive Yasu this way. Even if we assume Nanjo agreed to do it for the money, I highly doubt Kumasawa would simply agree to do this, just to comply with Kinzo's chauvinism. I highly doubt she'd do this as a woman, and as the figure that is the closest that Yasu has as a mother. I'm also fairly positive Kumasawa knows Yasu's real sex.

Of course, the last few points are my own impressions and opinions. So, I guess your theory still stands.

Originally Posted by chronotrig

For the first half, I think it's because Kinzo wanted to apologize to Beatrice herself, not just her child. It's clear that he recognizes them as two completely separate people, if you look closely at the moment he starts talking to "Lion" directly. Of course, Kinzo knows that Shannon was Yasu, and has been dressing up as a girl for a long time, but he also knows that Kanon is Shannon. So, Yasu gets to act the part of the woman Kinzo wanted to apologize to, and also to play the part of the son Kinzo wants to leave everything to, in the hopes that 'giving up everything Beatrice gave me' might be able to atone for his terrible sins.

I think you have a point. However, it makes you wonder why would Kinzo point out Yasu's striking resemblance with the previous Beatrices, if he thought Lion was a boy, unless he expected his child to be this androgynous.

Originally Posted by chronotrig

And that leads us to your second point. If Genji did present Lion to Kinzo, Kinzo would almost certainly want to make Lion the next head. After all, he's apparently been ranting about giving everything back to Beatrice for some time. Personally, I don't think it likely that Genji would work so hard to let Kinzo die in peace, and then ignore Kinzo's last request, which is probably the only request he even put in his will.

But this is assuming Genji thought Kinzo's last request couldn't be fulfilled if Lion was a girl. We know Kinzo is a chauvinist (although, if his characterisation in EP4 is somewhat reliable, then he had no problems with Maria as the next head), but this is Beatrice's child we're talking about. She's not like the other siblings we know Kinzo couldn't even care less about, but the daughter of his... daughter, and the granddaughter of Beatrice Castiglioni. These three people are the most important things to him. So, I don't think he'd care if Lion was a girl, and I'm sure Genji would probably have thought the same thing. But well, once again, I've come down to how I have interpreted things myself.