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Old 2011-07-25, 16:23   Link #64
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Originally Posted by Triple_R View Post
Well, for me, this is what it comes down to: A protagonist should be either likable or entertaining or interesting or some combination thereof. For me, a protagonist that lacks any redeeming traits *and stays that way* will fail to be any of those three things.
And THAT is what it's all about. Your characters must grow or change. He/she may not succeed, but we need to see some kind of progress and effort.

The main thing is that I can accept a lame character but if at the end they are the same thing, why do I even give a damn?

Change, for better or for worse. Change.

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And to tie this back into Hanasaku Iroha, this is why I would have much preferred to see Enishi succeed here. He's a character that desperately needs to be built up a bit (in that Love Hina! way). I actually liked Enishi and Takako last episode, which is why this episode was such a downer to me in some ways. Just when Hanasaku came so close to successfully rehabilitating two of their most widely disliked characters, they tear them right back down again. It's like capturing defeat from the jaws of victory.
Yea, honestly, that just seems like the writer being cruel for no good reason. Standard for the series. Someone's really bitter...

I do think, it's not necessary for the character to necessarily "win", but however he must win the audience. With all your wrestling references in the avatar, I'd say said character must get "over"-- even if they lose they should at least put up a good match and entertain the audience.

Who's over? Ohana, obviously. Who's not over? Einshi here; the crowd just chanted "BORING BORING" and booed him out of the stadium; I think it's pretty evident that it's a failure.

On the other hand, you do need a victory here and there to build credibility. It definitely would have been the simpler way out and I definitely think that kind of approach would allow this episode to gain 5-6 more pts.
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