[Shiek927]

So your judging all of society based the view we've had of one a rich hotel, as commented by Noel. Or the church and holy city hotel, which have always been grandiose as stated by Clare. The rest of the building insides haven't looked as nice if you recall Raki's ugly home for instance or Irene's abandoned cabin.

Plus don't forget in Claymore we've yet to see large families crowding these same building but families own with a single child or two instead, so the building look less crowded by default... and this is due to the series trying to be more relateable to modern societies than historically accurate to help fans relate better to the characters. In most cases I've actually found most buildings rather sparse... that house the AB smashed it's head into in ch 108 looked like a very poor peoples home IMHO.

.....I think I get how we are both thinking about this; in a sense, you just confirmed the whole medieval/modern thing.

It goes to what you said about apparent societal vs technology.....I mean families having fewer children, as is nowadays, isn't something medieval....yet you seem all too aware of it .

That doesn't mean though that the society/technology thing isn't exclusive because, again, the metal of the Claymore swords hold huge potential and could plausibly explain how the tunnel system can be crafted...if the societies are knowledgable and modern enough, they should be able to easily put two-and-two together and, say, craft tools out of said-metal to construct the tunnel system.

You might argue, in that sense, why they can't make tanks, firearms and other such things - the answer could be as easy as something as Yagi deliberately limiting their resources or them simply not having enough mind and/or means to take their civilization to the next level....It wouldn't surprise me though if somebody have diagrams or drawings of prototype flintlock pistols or other things that, by all rights, they should have if they have other things.

Plus, who knows.....it's a big big world - wouldn't it be ironic, and fitting, if some nation somewhere had firearms and other such modern-things but lacked obvious and basic things that the islanders, and their largely medieval world, does?

Since when did we confirm the dragon kin fly and thus an aerial advantage?

and duh, the tunnel system being a secret escape route (at the very least, and if connected to the mainland/another island instead of just being a route out of org hq to some where else on the island) would be exclusively for the MiB's .

The rest of your speculation has some nice reason to it, but still doesn't explain how these flying aerial spies never spotted the dig site for the tunnels entrance on the mainland or whatever island it was drilled to. Next off it doesn't explain why no dragonkin haven't flown over this island on a recon mission... I mean if the enemy never flew spy satellites/planes over my area 51 but flew them over everywhere else, I'd get very suspicious as to why they didn't need intel from there or more precisely how they where getting such good intel from there that they had no need of an occasional flyover of my big empty desert with a runway, or in this case a populated island with many destroyed buildings yet oddly where I never had a battle with them.

They are dragons - forgive me thinking they could fly

The MiB's are the losing side of this war, since the DoD's have their dragons which seemingly operate as siege-weaponry...being pushed as they do, it wouldn't surprise me if their were other elements which force the MiB's to such desperation and secrecy (such as them constructing this huge tunnel system for instance); the DoD's having the flight-advantage would explain it as it's a huge one.

As for your other words....don't forget that their are presumably almost 300 other such islands scattered about apparently....the DoD's can't fly so low as to give off their position; the MiB's are naturally on-guard to see if any whiff of their location is revealed, in which case, they would immediately escape....bombing all the islands from above, as I mentioned before, would take too much time and effort and they probably don't have the manpower to spare for such a costly, and probably wasteful, gesture.

Plus, how good is their geography? Both sides undoubtedly have maps and charts, but if their really are that many islands, and they are spaced out enough that an island thinks it's the only people on the whole planet.....maybe they aren't even looking in the right place; it's like finding a haystack to find a needle in a haystack. Depending on how much they know about the world around them, it could explain alot of things - maybe, barring a select few, the islands and/or any life outside of the mainland, is just a ambigious and unknown as the islanders think of everybody else.

For all we know, the DoD's HAVE flown over the island at one point or another....if their really are that many islands, it would be down to pure stupid luck; they can't fly low-enough that the MiB's fear danger that their position has been revealed; which may also explain why they haven't flown low enough that they see all the battles and fights going on over the course of the island wars...

Plus, if Rubel's words are anything to go by, this isn't new...they want the Org labs to be destroyed by their own creations so they won't try it again; they wouldn't actively seek out and destroy the Org labs by search-and-destroy in the first place...perhaps they already tried at one point and realized the pointlessness of it.

Not only that, Rubel's presence at the island in the first place, implies that somebody in the DoD faction knows what's going on - it wouldn't surprise me if the regular army and much of them didn't know at all (need-to-know policy), but Rubel is there to ensure the scientists demise, which means, even if they know the Org lab's location and everything else, they won't do anything to compromise his mission, which may be why we haven't seen any Dragons popping in till now.

Their's alot of things plainly to think about, but I think, with enough imagination, enough of it becomes plausible to explain, well, everything -- from the tunnel-system, to the DoD and Org dynamics, and everything else. Yes, their is undeniably going to be some suspension-of-belief, but ehh - at that point, we would be expecting too much from Yagi .

First off Claymore's aren't medicines.

Oh, really?

You get what I was trying to say....the existence and science behind the Claymore project, the creation of Yoma, Awakened Beings, and everything else is waaay to advanced for something a purely medieval people can pull off - This could go back to being explained by the whole society/technology thing, which shows that tech may not have to do with it so much as we think (science after all.... isn't just technology, but merely a part of it; a very large part, yes, but their are all sorts of science that don't rely on, or aren't based on, tech all that much -- math is one of them), but their is enough cleverness behind all of this to imply that, what these guys have pulled off, is simply too too much for, even a modern society, to pull off....

I mean, genetic engineering nowadays hasn't gotten to the point where we can make a fully-grown clone of out of somebody....they are seemingly sprouted hundreds of Yoma out of nothing and have been doing so for hundreds of years. Doesn't that say something about them?

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.....You know, it's kind of funny that we're talking so much about one piece of something that came from a potentially fake spoiler -- we're gonna feel silly if this ends up being completely false

Ehh, it's making the time go by