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Originally Posted by Hiss13

One, it's more like character induced stupidity than plot induced stupidity. Accelerator, for probably the first time in his life, was hit by a Level 0 in the face multiple times (note how he reacted when he was first hit and first saw his own blood), lost his big finishing move, and then saw the guy he threw into a wind turbine standing up. Combine that with the fact that Accelerator is not exactly the poster boy for sanity at this point in time (understatement ) and you can see why he just decided to charge at him. He snapped and lost any and all form of coherent, logical, tactical thought. That's character induced stupidity, not plot induced stupidity. That is far more acceptable (and if anything, better for character development).

No sorry, but the scene doesn't suggest he's lost his sanity. He's stressed but he's still making clear thoughts. He just decided to be an idiot. That's all. Because the plot needed him to lose.

Also, with regards to Mikoto's presence--Mikoto and the Sisters never made a direct move against Accelerator. They just did something to the environment but they never attacked Accelerator directly after Touma came into the picture.

I think if you found out that the strongest Level 5 was supposedly defeated by a Level 0, then you'd take into account the presence of another level 5 and 10000 sisters if you knew they were there.

Originally Posted by leukrota

Touma alone was supposed to defeat Accelerator, that was the plan (and I thought it was clearly stated). But when he was about to be wiped out Mikoto and Sisters helped in order to save him. It wasn't the plan, but they had no option.

And? I wasn't questioning any of that...

BTW, AC did see all that happened (at least Aleister did), the fact that it isn't mentioned here doesn't mean they didn't.

It doesn't mean they have either. Fanwanking away plot holes doesn't make them any better. And honestly, if they have seen everything then that just raises more questions.

Anyway, afterwards Touma ask about the result, not being sure if the experiments had stopped, but they did. Touma and CO don't really know why, but what can they do about it? In fact, if Mikoto knew the real reasons then she wouldn't have much to worry about during Index's Remnant arc.

That doesn't change the fact that that the whole resolution depended on an incredibly ambiguous and convenient plot device.

Originally Posted by SilverTalon

No, the calling off of the experiment makes sense even with the interference. Touma's plan was to defeat Accel alone and prove he wasn't the strongest, but really as Mikoto explained with her stupid plan, all they needed to do was interfere enough so that they would have to recalculate the experiment which was impossible. Accel losing sounds like a good reason to have to recalculate everything.

No, it's explained clearly in the novels:

Spoiler for Novel Comparison:

"Even if another Level 5 defeated Accelerator, the researchers would not be convinced that he was actually weak."


"Logically, she knew that she could not do anything by heading there. In fact, there was a chance she would destroy the solution that the boy had finally obtained. Because of that, staying there was the proper choice. She knew that. Anyone could figure that out logically."

"In Kamijou’s plan, he had to defeat Accelerator in order to fool the researchers. Once Mikoto interfered, that plan would fail."

What you think makes sense is not what the exposition is telling us. Mikoto's plan relied on her dying quickly than initially thought. But she hadn't.