View Single Post
Old 2011-07-19, 16:41   Link #23290
AuraTwilight
The True Culprit
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: The Golden Land
Send a message via AIM to AuraTwilight Send a message via MSN to AuraTwilight
Quote:
But isn't that the same in Rokkenjima? Pretty much everyone has emotional reasons for what they're doing. I mean, none of them were ever portrayed as people who would kill simply for money - unless it was an accident as we saw in EP7. And Kyrie and Rudolph doing what they did could be very well explained by saying Kyrie just went "fuck it" after Rudolph told her the truth about Battler's parentage.
Alright, give me a culprit and explain their emotionally-founded reasons for killing EVERYONE, not just a few people.

Quote:
My point is, she wrote the stories before anything happened. There were two likely outcomes:

a. The epitaph got solved, the gold was given to whoever solved it, and Yasu's future was in this person's/people's hands. In this case, the letters in the bottles would probably have been thought of just a joke, since no one would have died.

b. No one tried solving the epitaph, Yasu killed the majority of them and then blew the island up. In this case the letters in the bottles played the "And then there were none" role. So, in this case Yasu wouldn't have been playing the role of a martyr, but she'd actually have been the actual murderer.

Mind you, I'm not going to mention the fact there was a boat ready for Yasu and Battler to escape... That's another story.
And you know what? It doesn't look like Yasu planned for the scenario of "Someone solved the Epitaph but she didn't know about it so she acted as if no one had solved it." If she did, we never saw that message bottle.

Quote:
Yeah, but notice that by looking for them, she was still acting normally and not entrusting herself entirely to some fate roulette.

Sure, Yasu was an unlucky child, but she did try to cope with her life. It wasn't until she got told the truth behind her birth and then about her injury that she simply decided to entrust herself to fate.
Alright, great. Totally irrelevant, though, because my point is that she puts in a lot of misplaced effort in her projects and actions and then throws her hands up. This is true even with this broom example. After a while, she stopped trying to find it and just started working on her explanation for why she couldn't find it, which she then kept to herself and suffered the consequences of losing it.

Quote:
I think there's no problem with Will meeting with Battler, if the issue to solve was "who killed Beatrice?". The only clue anyone could hope he could get from Battler would be the promise, and as we saw in EP3, Battler doesn't even remember that. In fact, even if he could get that, all the better, because answering the posed question is what Bern expected Will to do.

Also, this would be Piece Battler and not BATTLER.
Bernkastel doesn't take that many risks. it's one of the traits explicitly noted to separate her from Beatrice. Bern only included what was necessary for Will to solve things, and by not including Battler, she is saying that this story doesn't need a heart. On top of that, what if BATTLER somehow possessed Piece Battler and interfered, or the Spectator's Authority allowed him to speak with BATTLER (since figures under the Authority can apparently access all memories of all their selves).
__________________
When the Silent Spirits Cry: An Umineko/Silent Hill crossover fanfiction
http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=4565173&postcount=531
AuraTwilight is offline   Reply With Quote