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Old 2004-04-01, 14:45   Link #15
Briareos
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Kalamazoo, Michigan, USA
Age: 53
Why not clarify things (LOL not) by replacing the word ecchi with a word more people fully understand, perverse.
http://www.hyperdictionary.com/searc...efine=perverse

The problem is that the definition of perverse=ecchi contains so many other terms that are different for each person. (i.e. immorality / what is right and good / wayward)

It's like trying to define pornography or obscenity: There is no one definition that will please everyone because each person is offended by different degress of behavior, depiction and language. (We can't even agree on what degree of storytelling equates to deep, although we can probably come to agree on certain specific titles.)

I can't recall an anime that was perverse and deep. The only story I can recall that is deep and (occasionally could be called) perverse is the Appleseed manga. (My list of things ecchi that I've seen or read is short.) In a few places we get to see some of the female characters showering and in various states of nudity for no reason that has real relevance in the story. But the main theme of the Appleseed manga rests on questions like, "What is the nature of humanity?" and "Is a degree of utopia possible, even if humans are re-engineered to be nearly perfect?"

Now in my book those nude scenes are not perverse, since I see nothing wrong with a person enjoying a view of a naked or scantily clad female. Person was used intentionally in the previous sentence since I know a few women who are aroused by the female form.

For me the question of this thread should read, "Are there any anime with deep plots that needlessly flaunt sexuality or nudity?" Even that question begs for interpretation. My point is not that the question was vague, or poorly stated, but that there will be a lot of disagreement on what the answers of the question are.
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Originally Posted by 7thMethuselah
There is a big difference between an ecchi show and a show which has some occasional nudity in it ...
Well said. If nudity was all that mattered, My Neighbor Totoro could be considered ecchi.
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