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Originally Posted by ^_Usagi_^
they could have fallen out of grace for various reasons... but this seems like a possible development (I still don't belive what somebody above said that Isshin is just a normal human & got his powers in some similar way as Ichigo). Does anyone know when the Shiba's have fallen out of grace?
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It's never been said, but it probably happened before Kaien died. And whatever it was, it had to have been a lot worse than what Yoruichi did, because the Shihouin family is still one of the top nobles.