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Kinematics · 2007-06-05, 15:29

Got volume 8 in the mail today. Perfect timing!

Not much in the way of answers for my earlier speculation, but did bring up some other interesting tidbits.

Spoiler for Ophelia:

Despite everything, I'm sorry to see Ophelia go. She's kind of grown on me; after Clare and Teresa, she's jockying with Ilena and Helen for third favorite

When she awakened, she still seemed to be very strongly 'human' in her thought process (twisted as that was). The hunger for guts was more like a "Hmm. I haven't eaten all day and I'm really in the mood for Mexican tonight." than an "Arrr! I'm an inhuman monster and you humans are nothing more than snacks now!" reaction. It was just a craving, not an overwhelming desire, to the point that she didn't even realize she had awakened.

More, though, in the fight with Clare, she was able to isolate her "human" parts away from the rest of her body. In doing so, it opened her up to suppressed memories and emotions that she had previously forgotten. Everything about her other than the unnatural cravings remained almost the same between her Claymore state and her Awakened state. Her attitude, her taunting and testing of Clare, her (rather vicious) little games. Even after changing to another species altogether, she still retained what was human about herself.

And she still wants to play a game.

Now the question is, did Clare take the arm that went flying (or the arm that was left, since Ophelia was holding on with her left arm) when she got to the end of Ophelia and attach it to herself? Rather grisly thing to do, but at the same time.. was Ophelia less worthy of being remembered than Ilena? For everything Ophelia did, she also, in just a short time, helped Clare really push herself, strain to her limits, focus on her control, and in the end had to prove that she was 'worthy' of fighting Priscilla in Ophelia's stead.

Still, probably not a good idea to take on the flesh of an Awakened, even if it is the human part of it. If she did, though, it'd be rather disturbing to think that she's keeping the memories of all her past friends (or maybe family would be a better term) (Teresa, Ilena, Ophelia; no Elena, though

) very close to her.

Spoiler for The Organization:

Spoiler for Riful & Friends:

Spoiler for Priscilla:

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Kinematics Let's play a game! Join Date: Sep 2006	Got volume 8 in the mail today. Perfect timing! Not much in the way of answers for my earlier speculation, but did bring up some other interesting tidbits. Spoiler for Ophelia: Despite everything, I'm sorry to see Ophelia go. She's kind of grown on me; after Clare and Teresa, she's jockying with Ilena and Helen for third favorite When she awakened, she still seemed to be very strongly 'human' in her thought process (twisted as that was). The hunger for guts was more like a "Hmm. I haven't eaten all day and I'm really in the mood for Mexican tonight." than an "Arrr! I'm an inhuman monster and you humans are nothing more than snacks now!" reaction. It was just a craving, not an overwhelming desire, to the point that she didn't even realize she had awakened. More, though, in the fight with Clare, she was able to isolate her "human" parts away from the rest of her body. In doing so, it opened her up to suppressed memories and emotions that she had previously forgotten. Everything about her other than the unnatural cravings remained almost the same between her Claymore state and her Awakened state. Her attitude, her taunting and testing of Clare, her (rather vicious) little games. Even after changing to another species altogether, she still retained what was human about herself. And she still wants to play a game. Now the question is, did Clare take the arm that went flying (or the arm that was left, since Ophelia was holding on with her left arm) when she got to the end of Ophelia and attach it to herself? Rather grisly thing to do, but at the same time.. was Ophelia less worthy of being remembered than Ilena? For everything Ophelia did, she also, in just a short time, helped Clare really push herself, strain to her limits, focus on her control, and in the end had to prove that she was 'worthy' of fighting Priscilla in Ophelia's stead. Still, probably not a good idea to take on the flesh of an Awakened, even if it is the human part of it. If she did, though, it'd be rather disturbing to think that she's keeping the memories of all her past friends (or maybe family would be a better term) (Teresa, Ilena, Ophelia; no Elena, though ) very close to her. Spoiler for The Organization: Next, we get to see the old codgers who run the place, er, Organization. It was a bit hard to follow the conversations, but I get the sneaking suspicion that Rubel would not be entirely surprised to find out that Clare had beaten Ophelia. He definitely seems the type that knows way too much about what's going on. Plus he doesn't have the bad fashion taste that the rest of the agents have. None of them have cool round sunglasses or a proper hat! Also, the top dog, president, whatever.. His hands and the back of his head look verrrry much like a Claymore that had their body partly transformed. It could just be old age, but it didn't look wrinkly (like the high priest in the church), but veined. Spoiler for Riful & Friends: And Riful. Woot. What can you say? That's one creepy little girl. Might be a bit of plot contrivance to let that one Claymore survive to call for help, but I suspect they 'let' her escape so that more Claymores would show up to be experimented on. If she was the weakest of the group, there was every reason to suspect that she wouldn't be of any use on awakening. Interesting bit of info on Galatea's powers. Very curious, and potentially very useful for the partially-awakened squad. Obviously she's no particular threat to Riful since Riful understands her powers and knows exactly how to counter them. Also obvious is that there's no way Clare and Galatea would win if they tried to fight their way out right now. But Clare's 'mission'.... Riful's rather put out by the northern awakened one's activities. Her own attempt to create an army of awakened is obviously not going too well. Part of the reason she needs them to awaken, though, is so that they'll join her side. Now she has someone in front of her who is actively antagonistic towards her enemy, and (while she doesn't know it yet, it could easily be brought to light) is not currently under the purview of the Organization. Speculation of probable direction of plot: In exchange for letting them go (and Galatea will definitely want to be let go; she's a prime candidate for Riful's testing), Galatea acts as escort for Clare in her attempt to eliminate Priscilla. That would be a major coup in favor of Riful in case of a war. They probably get to take the injured number 9 with them for whatever reason (she's not exactly prime hostage material, though Riful may want to continue her experiments on her). However, what would Riful gain in exchange as security that they'd make good on their promise? Clare (I think it was Clare) has said in the past that Claymores don't lie because they have no reason to ever do so. Might they swear their allegiance to Riful? Spoiler for Priscilla: More tidbits about Priscilla; most especially that she never harmed any of the young girls (notably including Ophelia) in any village she ravaged. That lends itself to supporting why she walked past Clare, without truly explaining anything. Why? Is it an artifact of her own childhood that blinds her, some remnant of her former ideals, or is it something about Clare's presense during her awakening? __________________ Let's Play a Game!