[Keroko]

Originally Posted by Evangelion Xgouki

LARP sounds kinda interesting. Dunno if I'd actually participate though .

Your loss, its a weekend of good fun playing around, creating scuffles, backstabbing people, being a merchant, you name it, and you can do it.

Originally Posted by Evangelion Xgouki

Dragon-boy?

I have a thing for dragons.

Originally Posted by Evangelion Xgouki

And to beat each other with foam sticks and such

Yup, and fun it is.

Originally Posted by Tempest Dynasty

Alright then. Here we go.

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What is it you seek?

Vengeance?

Restitution?

Absolution?

Salvation?

Seekers of the Truth, fear not what the past hides; fear not what the present shows; fear not what the future brings.

And rage against the dying of the light.

Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha: The Gospel of Judas

Spoiler for Chapter 1: The Darkness:

-snip-

Hmm, do you mind if I use an editted version of Noland for Fall of an Empire? The way he is now he is kinda hard to put into my story...

Yuuno seems pretty OOC in this chapter, though. I can't see him go all loko like that. I am curious as to what occured to make Chrono so broken, though I have a hunch...

Originally Posted by ghazghkull

Hey guys, do you guys mind giving my an opinion on this summary of this original fiction I'm working on, just based on what you've read here?

All I want to know is if it sounds too generic, or if it sounds interesting enough that you'd actually want to give it a read.

Spoiler for Summary:

Orphan Hirushima Makoto is about to step into a battle of the lifetime. Drafted into the Japanese air force, she struggles and fights as she finds out what it means to have a second chance at life fighting the enemies of humanity.

Not enough information for me to want to give it a read.

Originally Posted by Kha

More like its already been done:

Helm -- [Mask of Pennance]
Shoulder -- [Justice Bearer's Pauldrons]
Chest -- [Breastplate of Many Graces]
Belt -- [Girdle of Many Blessings]
Legs -- [Cassock of the Loyal]
Boots -- [Boots of the Watchful Heart]
Bracers -- [Virtue Bearer's Vambraces]
Gloves -- [Life Bearer's Gauntlets]

This imitation set is a 70s list, but its all blues from normal and heroics, and the color scheme is nowhere as epic as Judgement itself. Lastly, it's a healing set; no way am I wearing that to tank Heroics, especially when it has less +spell damage than Judgement.

Bleh. Healing set. Well, I'd go after it for the looks, maybe.

Originally Posted by Comartemis

Alright ladies and gents, welcome to my attempt at sorting out the mess that is the linker core. As with so much that Seven Arcs has given us in this series, the linker core is an essential part of the magic systems we see in-series, yet there is little to nothing said about it beyond its’ status as the source of a mage’s power. This is my attempt at putting the matter to rest with a hypothesis based on what we see in-series.

Sounds like a plan, I'll go past each individual point, so I'll reply in a spoiler for lenghth.

Spoiler for Linker Core Discussion:

Originally Posted by Comartemis

Canon sources define it as either a muscle or as an organ of some sort. There seems to be some confusion as to which of these is correct, and I’ve seen it referred to as one or the other numerous times on this thread; more on this momentarily.

I have never seen it reffered to as a muscle in any official source, but since most organs are muscles, the confusion is understandable.

But first off, this is what the official booklets say on the subject of Linker Cores:

Linker Core
As the name suggests, an organ in a mage’s (knight’s) body which works to link and manifest Mana generated within themself.
The disposition of a mage thus depends on their Linker Core, and currently any analysis of a mage’s abilities are done by examining the Linker Core.

Originally Posted by Comartemis

Mages in Nanoha cannot use magic without a linker core. How exactly this works is also a subject of debate (I’ve seen interpretations that claim it creates magic, and others that say it lets mages draw mana from the atmosphere), but regardless, magic as seen in MGLN cannot function without a linker core. This may not, however, be the case with all systems which use magic sources unique to their universes; Slayers or Negima magic for instance. For the purposes of this treatise, we will ignore these other possibilities and focus on canon systems which do require the LC to use magic.

Because the official source states that the core links magic generated within the mage, I'd say that linking magic form the atmosphere would be more aking to describing spells like Starlight Breaker, which 'gathers magic from the atmosphere'

Originally Posted by Comartemis

It should be noted, however, that Negima magic uses power taken from outside the body, and Negima mages have their own mage ranks using what is apparently the same scale as TSA mages; Takamichi, for instance, is described as being ranked AA+, and seems to be on a similar level to AA-ranked Nanoha mages. The system and the Negima universe in general may therefore be open for extensive and relatively easy porting when compared to other universes.

Wasn't he AAA? Anyway, Negima mages would have an easier time being ported, agreed.

Originally Posted by Comartemis

Not all people are born with Linker Cores. This contradicts the statement that the LC is a muscle or an organ, as both are a part of a person’s body and therefore one cannot be born without a linker core any more than one can be born without a heart or a lung. Therefore, it follows that all people are born with linker cores, just that the vast majority of them are too weak to be used to perform magic.

I have a question, Comar. Are you born with a uterus? No? But you are still living and breathing, right? A Linker Core is no more necissary for personal survival. Heck, the Linker Core is anything but a normal organ, concidering it doesn't have an actuall flesh-and-blood presence in the body, and can be ripped out without any permanent damage to the mage. Applying normal biology to a Linker Core seems like a silly thing to do.

To add, in A's, when Amy explains to Chrono that the Wolkenritter are attacking wild animals too, she says "Apparently, you just have to have a Linker Core" this line supports the fact that not all people are born with Linker Cores.

Originally Posted by Comartemis

When the core is attacked with a draining technique such as Shamal’s Linker Core Grab, it manifests outside the body as a glowing sphere of light. Damage done to the linker core by attacks such as this require several days to heal and regenerate depending on the severity of the drain.

Correct, thus supporting that it is far from a regular flesh-and-blood organ.

Originally Posted by Comartemis

The usage of magic requires mages to take in large quantities of food according to the DVD booklets, which indicates that the usage of magic uses physical energy of the body. This corresponds with the LC’s status as a part of the body.

*nods* Burning a form of energy will require replenishment. It also supports the knowledge that Linker Cores generate mana.

Originally Posted by Comartemis

It is possible for one to strain one's linker core by overusing it, as Nanoha does while using the Blaster System.

Indeed.

Originally Posted by Comartemis

Firstly, if we assume that the linker core is in fact an organ, then it most likely serves a constant function like the heart or the lungs, in this case being the constant creation of mana.

However if we assume the the core is in fact a type of muscle, we suddenly have an explanation for how a mage becomes stronger with training over time. This also corresponds with the presence of strained and damaged linker cores. Therefore, the Linker Core is most likely a muscle.

However, muscles are not ethereal globes of light, but a physical part of a person's body. This directly contradicts what we see in A's whenever the cores are forced outside the body of a mage targeted for an LC drain, so in order to avoid discarding outright one piece of information or the other, we must assume that both are correct in some manner, that the core is both a muscle and a glowing ball of light. The only way this works is if the core exists in more than one state at the same time, a dual-phase existence.

Why go through all this trouble complicating things? Why can't a ball of light grow stronger? This is needlessly complicating things IMO.

Originally Posted by Comartemis

In Comacanon, this dual-phase existence is thought to be made up of separate states on the material and on the astral planes, as a muscle which is a part of a person’s body, and as a glowing sphere or light which can be attacked using certain types of magic. It is my belief that the spiritual aspect of the core is directly tied to a person’s soul in some manner, perhaps an aspect of the spirit that binds a person’s spirit into their mortal shell, hence the name “linker” core. An object which exists in both the mortal shell and a person’s spiritual essence would bind the two together for as long as the link remains stable, and it would be possible to drain substantial amounts of energy from the spiritual core, which grows in strength in time with changes to the physical core.

A Linker Core is called a Linker Core because it links mana to form spells. Lets not confuse the meaning of the name.

Originally Posted by Comartemis

Learning to harness the spiritual half of the linker core would therefore allow a mage to utilize his/her own spiritual energy, or ‘ki’ (as opposed to mana, which is a purely external energy source drawn from the environment). This is the core of the “magic system” used by Asuna Kagurazaka in Comacanon.

Though this directly contradicts the canon that says mana is generated from the mages body.

Originally Posted by Kagerou

*raises hand* Can I use this for Alpha?

If you want to, yes. Alpha Syn was designed for close combat though, not ranged.

Originally Posted by JINNSK

I have finished my homework...Excuse my lazy translation.
Basically remaining part mentions Hayate's character.So,I'm not sure whether there is new information for you...

Spoiler for Original:

-13話のラスト、6年後のはやてが変身しようとしていましたが、あれは彼女自身が持っている能力なのでしょ うか?
都築 はやても健康で普通に育っていたらなのはたちと同じかちょっと上回るくらいの魔力があったんじ ゃないかと。
それが全部「闇の書」に強制貯蓄させられていたような状態で、真の覚醒をしてからその魔力が全部戻ってきた というかんじじゃないんでしょうか。
12話で戦った時は、貯蓄の分とリインフォース本体の力が融合している状態なんだと思います。
リインフォース消滅後ははやて個人の魔力のみですが、魔法の運用が滞りなくできてるのはリインフォースの残 した遺産のおかげということで。

-リインフォースの遺産とは?
都築 「魔力運用と、現在保有している魔法の使い方」についての知識とか...。
たとえば普通の人が、ものすごく高性能のコンピュータをぽんと渡されたとして、やりたいことがあっても知識 や経験が無い状態だとなにもできないじゃないですか。
ソフトが入っていても、何を立ち上げてどんな項目を選択すればいいのかもわからない。
リインフォースが残したものは、はやてが自分のパソコンを操作するための情報を懇切丁寧に書き込んだ、分厚 いマニュアルみたいなものなんだと思います。
「××をしたい時は、○○を立ち上げて△△を選択して」みたいな。
リインフォースが使えたり、魔導書に蒐集された魔法に関する情報や使い方をマニュアル化したものがはやての 記憶に記録されていて、はやてはそれを参照することで魔法を使える...という感じじゃないん でしょうか。
だから、リインフォースができたことは大抵はやてもできるし、当面は困らない。
ただ、これから新しいことをやっていこうと思ったら、多少の応用はきいてもやっぱり最初から覚えなきゃいけ ないと思いますけど。

-はやても修行するタイプですか?
都築 必要に応じて勉強や習得はもちろんしていくとは思いますが、なのはやフェイトとは若干方向性が違うかもしれ ません。
なのはやフェイトは、どこか「競技者」な面がありますから、習得や鍛錬の方向性が最終的に「自分個人がより 強く、上手く」ということ帰結する。
単一戦力として強くなることに価値を見いだす....強い自分を武器に仲間の役に立つというか 。
エース体質なんだと思います。
でもはやては、自分個人が万能・無敵になる必要は必ずしも無いと思っている部分あるんじゃない かと。
自分の守護騎士たちをより動きやすい形で動かしてあげられるようにするとか、一緒に事態に当たる仲間たちの 能力を認識した上で、最適で最上の支援法を選択するとか...。
はやての思考はそういう方面にむいているかと思います。育ってきた環境も、なのはやフェイトは常に「自分が 」何かをしなくてはならない状況だったのに対して、はやてはいつも誰かに何かをしてもらっていて、それに対 して自分が何をしてあげられるか、ということを考えてきた面があると思うので...。

-むしろクロノに似ていますか?
都築 はい。クロノとはやては気が合いそうです(笑)。
能力を競う「競技者」ななのはやフェイトに対して、クロノやはやては、球技のキャプテンや監督のような感じ で...。
陸上や水泳のような競技は、能力で明らかに劣っているものが上の立場の敵に勝つことはほぼ不可能ですが、実 際の戦闘や球技のようなゲームであれば、そうでもない。
はやてやクロノは、そういう状況で戦略とかゲームメイキングに気が回るタイプなんじゃないかと 。
ちなみに、なのはとフェイトは自分の速球がうたれたら「もっと速い球を投げられるようになろう」と思う人た ちだと思います(笑)。

-はやてと融合型デバイスの設定は、どちらが先につくられたのですか?
都築 はやてのほうが先です。
初期では闇の書は「望まずして突然持たされてしまった大きすぎる力」というだけで、そのほかの設定はそれほ ど細かく決まっていませんでしたが...。

-ところで、はやての料理は誰かに教わったのでしょうか?
都築 基本的には、図書館で独学とか何じゃないでしょうか。
多分ヴォルケンズ(ヴォルケンリッターたち)がくるまでは、ひとりで趣味としていろんなものを作っては「ひ とりやと食べきれへんなー」とかしょんぼりして冷凍保存したり、大人数向けの料理を「作ってみたいなー」と 思いつつあきらめていたのが、急に家族が4人も増えて一気に情熱に火がついたんじゃないかと。
自分が庇護したい相手がいて、その人たちが自分を頼りにしてくれるというのは、はやてにとってはとてつもな くうれしいことですし、そういう場はどこまでもがんばれる子だと思うので...。
逆に言うと自分個人のためにはあんまりがんばる気がないってことだったりもするんですが...
そういう意味では、はやてはエースよりも指揮官向きで、同時に騎士たちや、自分が生み出したリインフォース Ⅱの母親でいるのが一番居心地のいい場所なんじゃないでしょうか。

Spoiler for translation:

-In the last scene of A's ep13,Hayate was going to transform.Does she have transform skill?
Tsuzuki I think Hayate had mana of quantity same as Nanoha and Fate or slightly more than them if she healthy grew up.
All of her mana was forcibly made to save into "The book of the darkness" and she regained it entirely after awakening.
When she was fighting in ep12,it was the state that savings and mana of Reinforce were united.
After Reinforce disappeared,she has only mana of own.But she can use magic without stress,because there is the inheritance which Reinforce left.

-What's Reinforce's inheritance?
Tsuzuki It's a thing such as the knowledge about "the management of mana and the usage of magic".
For example,If a common person suddenly got a very high-performance PC,he cannot do what he want to do because there are not knowledge and experience.
Even if software was installed,he does not know what application he should start and which menu he should select.
I think Reinforce gave Hayate a thing like the very thick manual which Reinforce exhaustively and painstakingly wrote in information for Hayate to operate her PC.
Like "When you want to do ××,start ○○ and select △△".
Information about magic Reinforce used and collected by Knights recorded in memory of Hayate,and she can use magic by referring to it.
So,Hayate can do most thing Reinforce can do and she is not troubled with using magic for the time being.
But,When she is going to do that is totally new, she must practice and train it from a beginning.

-Is Hayate a type to train herself,too?
Tsuzuki If it is necessary,she will study and learn.But the direction may be slightly different from Nanoha and Fate.
Nanoha and Fate have character like "an athlete",so their last purpose is "I become stronger and better".
They regard it is important that becoming strong individually.
I think they are naturally ace.
But it seems that Hayate thinks herself doesn't need to be versatile and unrivaled.
To let knights can perform freely,or to support it so that her partners can demonstrate their ability.
I think the thought of Hayate is such a thing.
In the process when they grew up,Nanoha and Fate always experienced the situation that must be solved with "oneself alone",while Hayate have been helped by someone else all the time.So she always thought what she can do for other people...

-If anything, is she the type that resemble Chrono?
Tsuzuki Yes.Chrono and Hayate will get along well.LOL
Nanoha and Fate are "an athlete",while Chrono and Hayate are like a captain or a manager of the ball game.
In the individual competitions such as field-and-track events or the swimming,it is approximately impossible that a lower person beats a higher enemy.But it is not impossible in a real battle and some ball game.
Hayate and Chrono are the types that mind a strategy in such situation.
By the way,I think Nanoha and Fate are the type to think "i want to be able to throw a faster ball" if their fast ball is hit.LOL

-Which did you plot earlier,Hayate or the Unison device?
Tsuzuki It's Hayate.
In the first,I thought the book of the darkness was just as "The too big power that was given suddenly without expecting" and other stuff was not decided in detail.

-By the way,did Hayate learn cooking by somebody else?
Tsuzuki Basically,she probably studied it by herself in a library.
Probably,before Wolkens came,she made various cooking as a hobby,and she felt lonely "I cannot finish eating alone".And she dreamed to cook grand dishes for a family.
However, she got four families suddenly and her passion seemed to ignite at a stretch.
There are partners who she want to protect and they rely on her.I think she feel happy having such a place and she can do anything as far as she is there.
On the other hand,she is hardly interested about herself...
So,I think Hayate is suitable for a commander rather than an ace and she prefer to be in the most comfortable place where she can be mother of Knights and Reinforce2.

*clucks tongue* My throat feels dry after reading this. It seems that even the creator himself feels like shafting Hayate.