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Spoiler for Kha and Linker Cores:

Originally Posted by Kha

2. The LC is able to make use of "loading foods" --medically and from the anime, I'd say the nutrient involved would be carbos and fat-- by either extracting mana trapped in the food, or converting the energy in the food into mana, we're not sure.

I disagree we’ve discussed this before in IRC and IMO the food has nothing whatsoever to do with actual magical energy. The linker core as an oragan uses the food energy to convert mana in the air into usable mana, but it dose NOT convert the food itself into mana. Mana is never created in the mage merely harvested and refined from outside and this harvesting process requires energy this is what the food is for.

3. The LC also has a storage function. Through rest and meditation, one can regenerate their magic potential over time.

I also disagree with this somehwat as well while the LC might do some stroage I think in many ways it's more like an engine then a gas tank. When engaged it starts sucking up mana first from inside the body, but it burns that very fast it then goes to external "fuel" IE the mana in the air and starts using that to make "Horsepower". Of course an engine has it limits it can only take in so much fuel so fast before it's either flood or explodes. One can overdrive it for short periods of time using various methods, but as with such power boosts in real engines it comes with increased risk.

IMO this is supported by the fact we don't really see mages "running out" of mana merely tiring out and becoming less able to process it as there body reaches its physical limits. This also explains why physical training is vital and we see so much of it done by mages. If the use of magic requires and relies heavily on the effective utilization of food energy stored in the body by the linker core to draw in outside energy and make it useful then in many ways it's much like any other physical activity and physical training to make your body more efficient at using that store energy would benefit you magically as well.

As for the rest, we agree a lot, including the spiritual component of the core being the seat of the soul.

This I just consider total nonsense as we see cores damaged and such and no one ever becomes a zombie or something in fact the very concept of a soul existing in Nanoha is highly suspect. We see no nercomancy, after life, ghosts, etc shit UC Gundam has more hints at a true soul then Nanoha does.

The lack of detection in 97th-level imaging indicates that it is purely an immaterial organ that bridges both material and immaterial realms.

Or more logically it means that non-mages simply DON'T have LC and since such people are so extremely rare on earth none of the tiny handful that do has ever been subjected to the kind of intense imaging technology that would be needed to locate the core which in any case would have only come about in perhaps the last 20 to 30 years anyway.

- the core is 100% spirit;

Just untrue IMO based on canon immaterial spiritual objects don't need carbohydrates anymore then god needs a space ship.

- that everyone is born with one except have very differing levels, and it is possible to suddenly "awaken" a latent core by a suitably strong enough stimulus;

Also probably untrue IMO see above reasoning.

- it can be transferred via means of suitably advanced magic, resulting in temporal fusion of two individuals or possibly an immaterial "archon"-like being (Resembling Shinigami from Bleach);

Probably possible much organ transplants it would be risky, but doable.

- "spirit energy" for me is still unlinked Mana, albeit floating in the Warp and Astral Planes instead of the Materium;

A sane and unusually level headed thing for you and I'd agree.

- and Ki is just a name for the mana linked via training a very low-potential LC to whip up some for physical enhancement (the magic basis of kungfu in other words).

Another sane idea and another one I'd agree with basically guys in Nanoha with Kung-Fu super powers are unknowing tapping into there linker cores. They can THINK it's because of some sort of living force in them, but it's just magic being done a different way.

Originally Posted by Kha

Chakra rivers, infused nervous systems, magic circuits... They are all the same thing, and in other for magical damage to actually work (or something to recognize and avoid damage), there must a piece of the system running through the whole body.

There's no evidence for this and when such is lacking it's logically to keep things simple which is that the linker core requires no circulatory system since it's never seen, mentioned, or even hinted at in all text on the LC.

"A lack of evidence is not itself evidence."

It isn't a muscle, period. It can't be detected by simple imaging, or even surgical techniques, but it remains anchored to the person's soul and that undiscovered secondary comms network. At least this is what I think, using what I know so far.

You have no proof of that and I have a perfectly valid reason we don't know about it 1. The technology to acutally see inside a person with the kind of claity needed is acutally quite new. 2. Earth has basically no magic users with a grand total of TWO in six billion confirmed. There are tons of people NOW that will go there entire lives without a full blown cat scan or MRI of there entire body to think that a mage (who might well KNOW there a mage and thus be wary) whose one in a million (If not billion) would just happen to blunder in to get scanned and that'd they'd acutally be paying enough attention to notice is a stretch.

See my above answer. It really doesn't have to be a muscle, or any material component at all.

Yes it dose I say again ethereal spiritual constructs don't us calories.

Just to add on: The LC only becomes visible with special scanning techniques of the magical world. They know how to look for it and make it visible.

Just to add on Kha is basiclly touting his own set of beliefs and ignoring large bits of canon that get in the way.

And once again, whether we like it or not, canon follows the specifications of a game.

Nonsense, utter nonsene.

Party mechanics,

I see so any show that uses team based tactics is now based on RPGs.

spell versus physical damage specialization,

Many times these are one in the same really and we see tons of poeple that can do both.

recharging mana with items or just sitting there,

Such an item is NEVER seen indeed the only way to recharge seems to be rest and food. The later of which is how it works in pretty 95% of Fantasy fiction ever written.

barrier jackets that work on stats alone,

This has NEVER been proved even remotely.

allowing Plate-ranked bikinis to have more defensive power than a full-body robe;

Never proved even slightly in fact all the times we see very thin or small jackets they're almost always said to provide inferior protection. We also have quotes talking about how the ammount of fabric effects protection.

this is the reality of canon we have to face as much as it doesn't make sense elsewhere. Suspension of Disbelief anyone?

It make sense if one is willing to work to make it so you merely lack the patience and will for that though so you prefer to simply claim it "doesn’t make sense" and then go ahead and instead apply illogical and poorly fitting RPG concepts which you somehow seem to think DO.

Originally Posted by Saint X

I'm also taking into consideration the fashion sense of Midchildan males and the long feministic traditions of Midchilda, unlike the Partinistic Traditions of Earth.

Which is seen... oh yes right pretty much no where. Since you pretty much made those up.

Spoiler for Keroko and Linker Cores:

I have never seen it reffered to as a muscle in any official source, but since most organs are muscles, the confusion is understandable.

The fact is it also just works like one from what we see in canon it needs food energy, you can strength it by working it out, but you can damage it by going too far, etc.

Because the official source states that the core links magic generated within the mage, I'd say that linking magic form the atmosphere would be more aking to describing spells like Starlight Breaker, which 'gathers magic from the atmosphere'

Except that the StrikerS booklet refutes that line of thought completely:
"For mages, Mana in the atmosphere is linked together in an organ, the “Linker core”, and stored within their body"

To me that looks like a straight up clarification the first quote is somewhat ambiguous this really isn't.

I have a question, Comar. Are you born with a uterus? No? But you are still living and breathing, right? A Linker Core is no more necissary for personal survival. Heck, the Linker Core is anything but a normal organ, concidering it doesn't have an actuall flesh-and-blood presence in the body, and can be ripped out without any permanent damage to the mage. Applying normal biology to a Linker Core seems like a silly thing to do.

Yes and no, the first part is right it's pretty much just an organ and indeed not even one that seems needed to survive or function. (which is why I consider any nonsense about it holding a soul total bunk) The later bits are MUCH more debatable it's hard as hell to explain how diet and working out are important to making it work well if it's not connected to the body physically in someway.

To add, in A's, when Amy explains to Chrono that the Wolkenritter are attacking wild animals too, she says "Apparently, you just have to have a Linker Core" this line supports the fact that not all people are born with Linker Cores.

Agreed.

Correct, thus supporting that it is far from a regular flesh-and-blood organ.

Actually it's sort of the opposite if it wasn't linked the mage physically in someway why would it have ANY effect on them? Logically they should take magical damage and be unable to cast spells and such, but not fall into a near coma!

*nods* Burning a form of energy will require replenishment. It also supports the knowledge that Linker Cores generate mana.

See the booklet Cores aren't producing mana they're processing it.

Though this directly contradicts the canon that says mana is generated from the mages body.

Not really see the above quote from the Strikers Booklet. That said I like Kha think of "Ki" as merely magic used by people that might not totally understand that it's such. It's using the same thing a different way.

*clucks tongue* My throat feels dry after reading this. It seems that even the creator himself feels like shafting Hayate.

Depressing ain't it... Also puts a dampers on any hopes for much improvement in future canon. =/