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Uran · 2008-02-24, 06:43

>most series nowadays, at some point, get licensed. Yes, admittedly it may take a couple of years before international releases to reach our stores, but the point is, if the series is good, there will be legal opportunities to buy it. So why is fansubbing still, by and large, a popular pursuit? It seems to have achieved what it set out to do (bring anime to the larger world) so what is it's new reason for existing?
Let's speak about this issue. That 90% of anime comes to America and what happens after that? They are horribly censored, crap dubbed, 'childrenized' and raped to the point the original japanese shows die there.
These stuff are given in mass quantity to the younger american audience and that's the test field for the success of the show. Praiseworthy shows then may become popular and also have the chance to get reselled overseas.
So after the proof of blood in the american market, maybe even I, who am Italian may be able to enjoy a new anime title after only some years more wait.
But what if the shows fail in America? They could never cross the ocean.
So America's audience is a great filter and decides what's good or not. And we may argue a lot about how good is real 'good'
Yes, Anime come to you after several filters that you, anime fan hav no power to influence anymore. You just wait your favourite serie to be aired sometime and hope it'was not destroyed in the process.
If fansub now has accompliced its first and highest task, being to promote anime to the US, there's still work to do. It's promote anime worldwide, cause the world it's not just US. Yes an english version does help a lot worldwide distribution, but it's not yet enough.
Now the task of fansub should be more something like a direct link to the original japanese shows. It's a safe link that avoids all of the remastering and censorship added in the process of licensing.
After all who really wants anime will buy it anyway, even aftre watching the subs. Fansub or not, who doesn't want to buy will simply download a pirate rip.
If someone is guessing why fansub DL go high and DVD sells go down, go analyze the quality first. Maybe the two phenomenons are mainly unrelated, and people doesn't buy the DVD cause a general lack of quality and high prices most of all.

2008-02-24, 06:43	Link #74
Uran Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008	>most series nowadays, at some point, get licensed. Yes, admittedly it may take a couple of years before international releases to reach our stores, but the point is, if the series is good, there will be legal opportunities to buy it. So why is fansubbing still, by and large, a popular pursuit? It seems to have achieved what it set out to do (bring anime to the larger world) so what is it's new reason for existing? Let's speak about this issue. That 90% of anime comes to America and what happens after that? They are horribly censored, crap dubbed, 'childrenized' and raped to the point the original japanese shows die there. These stuff are given in mass quantity to the younger american audience and that's the test field for the success of the show. Praiseworthy shows then may become popular and also have the chance to get reselled overseas. So after the proof of blood in the american market, maybe even I, who am Italian may be able to enjoy a new anime title after only some years more wait. But what if the shows fail in America? They could never cross the ocean. So America's audience is a great filter and decides what's good or not. And we may argue a lot about how good is real 'good' Yes, Anime come to you after several filters that you, anime fan hav no power to influence anymore. You just wait your favourite serie to be aired sometime and hope it'was not destroyed in the process. If fansub now has accompliced its first and highest task, being to promote anime to the US, there's still work to do. It's promote anime worldwide, cause the world it's not just US. Yes an english version does help a lot worldwide distribution, but it's not yet enough. Now the task of fansub should be more something like a direct link to the original japanese shows. It's a safe link that avoids all of the remastering and censorship added in the process of licensing. After all who really wants anime will buy it anyway, even aftre watching the subs. Fansub or not, who doesn't want to buy will simply download a pirate rip. If someone is guessing why fansub DL go high and DVD sells go down, go analyze the quality first. Maybe the two phenomenons are mainly unrelated, and people doesn't buy the DVD cause a general lack of quality and high prices most of all.