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Old 2011-11-29, 20:26   Link #144
Shimapan
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Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Germany
Age: 40
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Originally Posted by Malkuth View Post
I really can not get some people, what is the problem with undressing and/or being seen naked by people who are not interested in using your body for their satisfaction? Is it a problem to see your mother/father naked? Your team-mates in the showers? Why would it be a problem for your sister, especially when she behaves so childish?
Good point there. Yes, there shouldn't be any problem. Nudity *isn't* evil, even if you frequently hear Christian puritans ranting that it is.

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Originally Posted by Malkuth View Post
Unless you equate Kodaka with some serial rapist or puritan bigot, Kobato should feel very comfortable and secure undressing in front of him, only the above two categories pose any real danger.
Indeed, that she feels comfortable around Kodaka just shows that they have a good relationship. If she wouldn't feel comfortable around Kodaka and would behave differently, *that* would be a reason to be concerned.

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Originally Posted by Malkuth View Post
Nah, I don't buy it, should she be her usual self, she would have had a blast ruining everyone's fun and games...
Exactly. Yozora attempting to ruin everyone's fun (especially Sena's fun, who wanted the pool visit the most) would be the most likely explanation.

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Originally Posted by KLGChaos View Post
Rika leaving is somewhat understandable, though, as it's been mentioned she's a hikkomori who really isn't good around people. I know what agoraphobia is like-- a couple of my friends really suffer from it. My one friend was going insane at the NYCC... literally had to leave an area one day because he couldn't take the shoulder to shoulder issues. That I understand.

There's been no real mention that Yozora has a problem with crowds until this episode-- just that she couldn't make friends. Which is a HUGE problem with her character. We have no idea what caused her problems, whether there was a tragedy in her past, a mental disorder, or whatever. With no insight into her character, combined with her normal attitude of bullying everyone, and it's hard to really feel sorry for her.

It's also why people tend to blame Yozora and forget about Rika. Yozora's personality of trolling people, with zero insight as to why she does the things she does, makes a lot of people not like her... so she takes the brunt of the impact. Rika is fairly well-liked because she does get along well with everyone normally, so people are willing to forgive her more.
Rika is understandable because she never was among people at all, and even never was among classmates as she never took part in regular classes. Her visits to the classroom are the first time that's she's not all by herself all the time. Plus, she gets along nicely with other people.

With Yozora it was never mentioned that she has problems being among other people, and it seems very unlikely, because she's regularly among other people during class etc.
That together with her inclination to bully and troll everyone and try to ruin others (esp. Sena's) fun makes it much more likely that she was just simulating being sick, just to ruin the other's fun at the pool, especially Sena's fun, as Sena wanted the pool visit the most.

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Originally Posted by VVolf View Post
Nope, you're not alone. It's obvious from the bus scene that Yozora was sorry that she had to leave like that. Had it been a smirking Yozora then yes, I would've agreed that Yozora did it on purpose to spoil everyone's fun.
No, that doesn't prove at all that Yozora didn't do it on purpose to ruin the other's fun.
When the others come out of the pool and Yozora sees them, she quickly turns her head away, and the bus departs.
She could've been suppressing her smirk just for the short moment they saw her and turned her head away quickly when she saw them just in case she couldn't suppress it. She could've sent Sena the message solely to have them come running out and see the disappointed look on their faces.
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