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Old 2009-12-18, 07:46   Link #6960
bladeofdarkness
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: at GNR, bringing you the truth, no matter how bad it hurts
Age: 39
come on
you have a HUGE list of people here that you say are karma hudini
not because they didnt pay at all (which is the TRUE definition of karma hudini)
but because they didnt pay "enough" in the eyes of the one making the claim

thats hardly fair, because in some cases, its litteraly impossible to pay enough
nina can spend her life curing cancer and HIV and still never make up for everything she's guilty of
suzaku's the same (he has a death toll in the tens of millions)
and nunnaly is also beyond the point of equal trade
and even lelouch, who actually DIED to make up for it, is hardly in the clear
simply because the numbers CANT match up no matter what you do

you cant just say "they suffered SOME, but not enough to avoid being karma hudini"
the whole point of a karma hudini is that they do all the stuff they did, AND GOT AWAY WITH IT CLEAN
by my book, all it takes is basiclly two factors to avoid being a karma hudini
1)honest repentence about your actions (key factor)
2)having suffered, as a result of them/having taken considerable actions to undo the harm, or otherwise improve the world as payment for ones actions

in that regard, Schneizel is NOT a karma hudini, because he got whats coming to him
he is a slave for all of his life (pretty much a fate worse then death)

suzaku nunnaly and nina also are not karma hudini because nina and suzaku both did everything they could to prevent a greater catastrophy and make the world a better place
and nunnaly ended up losing the one person in the world who matters the most to her, and is seemingly try to improve the world in the epilouge

ougi is debetable, not simply because he didnt really "got away with it" (almost got killed, and thrown in jail for a few months)
but because its debatable if his actions actually WARRENT a karmic retrebution beyond what he actually GOT (remember, ougi was stupid, not evil)

the only ones who truely count are cornellia, villeta (although, being married to ougi might count )

and gino's just an idiot
he didnt actually do anything to truely warrent a karmic retrebution beyond just generally being an idiot who's fighting on the wrong side of a war
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