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Originally Posted by molitar
Shu, is not an asshole.. stop saying he is.. he is severely traumatized. Remember not only did he fail to protect Jun but he personally had to kill Jun with his own hands.. he feels he failed 2 people.. Jun and Jun's brother.
Now the writer was showing you what Shu was seeing he is seeing everyone dying and turning into the monster that Jun did.. Jun, did not die he turned into a monster that would even kill his own brother. I imagine that not only does that severely traumatize him but also brings back flashbacks to when he was a child.. a DOUBLE WHAMMY!
Even a cop the first time they have to kill someone have days off and counseling.. And a cop is either saving himself or someone so feels he is justified to a degree.. Shu, has none of this justification making it even worse.. So you got now a TRIPLE WHAMMY! No wonder Shu is so messed up.. Only Hare at this time could reach him..
The Undertakers all started with using him as a tool and he has not known them long he could not turn to them for any comfort. Hare, with her slap and telling him the obvious has made him realize a bit what is happening to him.. Hare's part was VERY important she was the ONLY ONE that could reach him where his self conscious has buried him as he has known Hare for a while.. Shu's mind has him buried in lies and turmoil and was retreating back to the Normal Shu to protect itself as the mind always does. The mind thought it's better to go back to the normal Shu the one that just lived with no effort or will with no pain or regret.
Gai, realized this and until Shu recovered on his own he was of no use to anyone or himself and told the others not to bother him.. So Gai had some humanity left in him here because if Gai kept pushing him like he did in the beginning Gai realized he would snap and never be sane or normal again.
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Great post,you're made me re-evaluate even the parts that I did not like so much of this episode. But, I admit you made me wondering something.....I wonder if Shu did not have to kill / or try to kill that girl once she was contaminated by the virus?
And I wonder if from now on Shu must not kill the infected to give them peace and start with Gai in the next episode / episodes ?
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Originally Posted by karice67
Whilst I don't agree with everything you said - e.g. I do think Shu was a bit of a jerk in trying to use Hare - but you've definitely made some very good points that I think a lot of people forget about.
Especially in this age where violence on TV has become so prevalent - because heroes etc are expected to be used to killing, and even praised for it, too many people forget what actually killing someone means. Kudos to the writers for remembering and emphasizing that.
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I agree totally. About Hare as I agree with you is not the first time someone does something like this.They think that by replacing the girl / boy they love with another one may diminish or make them forget their suffering or the one they love. But in reality it almost never works, so the only thing I can say is that Shu has made a move like an idiot and Hare knew.
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Originally Posted by com_gwp
Wait, so no new episodes for 2 whole week? Man, I sure hope 11 ends on a conclusive note if that's the case, cliffhangers would annoy me.
Also, suppose it's as good as any time to call Gai's death within 2-3 episodes. Hell, I won't be surprised if he die and character development picks up through [insert relevant character name]'s flashbacks of him.
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I agree, I really hope that the episode 11 ends on a conclusive note.And I also agree about Gai death .I even think there is the likelihood that Gai will die right in the next episode