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Originally Posted by Ashaman

It is a power relation chart. But it isn't a who beats who chart. These things are not the same.

Spoiler for Touma:

You also seem to be under the misconception that Touma is in the top 4 - that isn't Touma, its the Invisible Thing.

Spoiler for Birdway:

As for Birdway, when your argument against me is to bring in her cabel when I'm talking about her individually, it loses credibility. Anything Birdway has done is or shown to be capable of is dwarfed by the scale and usefulness of Divine Punishment. And not only that, you start talking about all the times she saved the world and so on, and I'm asking myself "How and When?" And then you start bringing in possibilities in her Major Arcana spells, but we have no clue what they are.

Spoiler for Rikou:

Putting aside the fact that you are spouting possibilities again, cause at the end of the day Rikou is a Level 4 at the moment, you are also wrong in what you think Level 5 Rikou is capable of. When Hamazura was speculating, it was all in the "She could do this to others" No mention of what she could do to herself. And then there is the common sense of her actually messing her her own Personal Reality and the massive fuck up that could result if she makes a mistake and loses her AIM Stalker powers in exchange for Level 5 Pyro or something stupid.

And nearly the most powerful? She would be Rensa Level, even with all the powers that she, guess what, doesn't even have.

Which is why she's support. Because to date, the only combat role she has displayed are support, apart from her brief offscreen bout against Kakine in Vol.15.

Okay sheesh I don't want to argue anymore.

But: the Birdway stuff happened somewhere in 20-22 don't remember which

Rikou in 22

Touma (that's obvious)

Spoiler for volume 22:

but he suppressed it so he's obviously got control over it. Since he's the one using it and since he's beaten all of those other people, that kind of should be his level if you think about it... I mean IB chooses him. If it's his power, then the thing up there should be him, not the power itself. The thing inside him is technically part of his power at least at this point...

And fine: I was just speculating. I still think things will happen ok?