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Originally Posted by Keroko
Neither Medusa or Medea were particularly heroic either. Then we have Angra Mainyu, the very opposite of heroism, while Fate/Zero gives us the lovely child killer known as Gilles de Rais. Suffice to say that being a great hero isn't really a requirement, you just have to be well known.
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True, but most of the above are at least famous for some great personal accomplishment or story; Medusa was the monster in the legend of Perseus, Medea was a great witch with connections to the Olympian Gods (and may have been a demigoddess herself, I can never recall...), Gilles de Rais was a confidante of Joan of Arc who was also famed for connection to the occult. They're all anti-heroes at best, but they're also all connected to some great feat, even if as a supporting cast or as a major threat to the real hero of 'their' story.
I'd say that our 'Red Saber's' true identity (if that is indeed the correct one), while not unknown by any stretch, doesn't really have that mark of real 'greatness' going for it... except for that one other guy up there.