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Old 2016-08-14, 15:22   Link #17
Polarpew
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Originally Posted by Guido View Post
PolarPew you're as well forgetting or missing another point that not all souls that are eaten by or become Hollows were morally good in their previous lives as humans.

Remember that in the universe of Bleach there's a Hell as well, and all morally evil souls go there.

An example was the Shrieker Hollow from a case before Ichigo and company went to SS to rescue Rukia; that was a story from the earliest arc of the manga at the beginning.

The soul of the Shrieker Hollow was that of serial killer who in life murdered innocent people for pleasure, and after he became a Hollow he turned into something worse resuming his murderous ways.
When Shrieker Hollow got killed his soul was sent to Hell, because 1) in life he never repented of his sins and 2) the magnitude of his crimes when being alive as a human were too atrocious to grant any form of leniency to enter SS.

And, here again we enter another moral dilema, because in your previous argument you're presuming that all souls as either individual Hollows or Hollows merged into Menos are all good souls.

But, what happens if Menos- Gillian, Adjuchas, and Vasto Lorde, are composed of souls both morally good and morally evil that are mixed, fused, meshed, and intertwined all together into a single entity, and let alone that they continue to devour other souls that may be morally good or morally bad?

Don't the evil souls deserve punishment and judgement for whatever unspeakable crimes they commit when they were evil humans, too?

In menos, and even more so with the Arrancar, how can one tell if the fused entity is made up more of evil souls than good souls or viceversa?

Unless (as someone previously proposed) SS develops sort of a technology that allows them to disintegrate the Menos back into the hundreds to millions of souls they originally came to be, "killing" the Menos would as well pose another problem since Hell would also be affected as well by the excess oversaturation of evil souls, and it gets much worse because SS has absolutely no jurisdiction or inference whatsoever to monitor hell and let alone invading the Hell realm.
I'm not quite sure you even read my posts? I never claimed the souls were good or evil. Evil souls are sent to hell, good souls go to SS. The act of purifying a hollow facilitates this process, if you don't purify the hollow then the good souls are stuck inside the hollow preventing them from reincarnating, and the evil souls stay unpunished by being stuck inside the hollow. We're not discussing good vs evil, but rather how the flow of souls is disrupted by the existence of hollows. The whole evil souls and good souls is already taken care of by the system, hollows are bypassin this

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Originally Posted by DMurphy View Post
I'm not saying they would have, but I'm saying they could now.

Firstly, remember, the idea that Hollows can become fully fledged people is new information to Soul Society. SS knows very little about Adjuchas or Vasto Lorde prior to the events of the story, so why would they have tried? They may not even have been aware that Adjuchas and Vasto Lorde are fully fledged people, because they almost never encounter them - even encountering a Gillian is considered to be a rare event prior to canon.

Secondly, remember that SS has probably never been blessed with as many genius scientists as it has currently. Urahara, Hikifune, and Mayuri aren't just scientists, they're scientists who have all created revolutionary (and noted to be revolutionary in canon - remember, Hikifune's creation of the mod soul is considered on par with the creation of zanpakuto, it was clearly a scientific breakthrough unlike anything SS had ever seen) inventions involving Hollows, the creation of souls, and the manifestation of spirits into concrete forms.

Also, why not leave souls there until they can find a solution? You don't actually know those souls are suffering, that's something you assumed without evidence. They might be completely unaware of what's going on. What we do know is that they're not going anywhere - souls don't age, after all, they can be freed at any time.

EDIT: And another thing - SS now has its disposal more resources than it ever has. Not just those three scientists, but also it has a good relation with two Quincy, it has at least a tenuous peace with Las Noches, it has Vizards who can be studied (if they're willing), all of whom could provide different data and perspectives on the problem. SS has both an absurd concentration of genius scientists and more viewpoints, resources, and data than it has ever had before.
Why leave them there even if they aren't suffering? It's like telling the soul of your mother, "hey sorry about this but since you're not even aware of your situation, you can just stay stuck in that hollow cuz I wanna deny you the chance of immediate release since the hollow that ate/ or contains you needs to be saved first"
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