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Old 2012-09-02, 16:11   Link #30338
jjblue1
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Originally Posted by Patchwork Chimera View Post
That's pretty cool, you know. Straight to headcanon, because is so crazy and bitter even Bernkastel would get a laugh out of it.
Actually the first part (Yasu not being Beato 3) was a theory discussed some time ago... can't remember who deserves the credits for it but if you feel like checking you'll also find the reasoning behind it.

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Originally Posted by Patchwork Chimera View Post
And yeah, maybe IRL all that coincidence about names would be crazy, but in his work it might have a meaning. Doesn't mean that the meaning is something that can be decided just because it sounds pretty. Maybe Ryuu was thiking about reindeers when he named Rudolf, who knows?
Honestly, how much chances there are that he's named after the reindeer? I know you're joking but the point is when a writer picks a name with a meaning it's usually due to a logic association, a connection that's supposed to be easy for a reader to make.

You hear the name Rudolf, hear how his character is and connect him to Rodolfo Valentino pretty easily.

Now yes, it could be a coincidence if it wasn't for the fact that in Umineko there's plenty of them and some of them are really pretty obvious.

Ryukishi knows readers, expecially Japanese ones who're more used to this and can easier find the connections, are going to catch up on this.

Chosing a name that, for them, has a rather obvious meaning and that can be used to make a certain connection has to have a purpose.

It's either a hint or a red herring otherwise he would have picked up one who really meant nothing or, even better, Ikuko would have ended up nameless and meaningless.

It's different for us. Most of the western names doesn't have an obvious meaning so, if we've to write a tale, often we end up chosing them because they're cute and if we call the prince... let's say, Gilbert, it's because we like the sound of it, not because of its meaning (noble youth) but it's hard to think that Ryukishi would chose Ikuko at random without even figuring that his readers might wonder what he was trying to say with that name with that meaning.

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Originally Posted by GreyZone View Post
Actually... I don't think the scenes we saw about Tohya being hit by a car played out like shown.
Actually, since Ikuko claimed she wasn't the one who hit Tohya with her car it might even be no one did. Battler was wounded due to the explosion or something and when he reached the land he was in a confusional state. He ended up on a street and believed a car hit him by logical association... though maybe the doctor could confirm if he really was hit by a car... oh well, the doctor is already being bribed by Ikuko ala Kinzo's style so I don't know if Battler can trust him... but Ikuko, be her a random stranger or Yasu would likely know if he was hit by a car.

But yes, car put aside, the whole a random stranger pick him up as if he was an abandoned kitten and hides and take care of him feels forced.

If that's the truth it's a bad plot twist.
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