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Old 2010-11-05, 08:34   Link #5058
Renall
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Yes. No one can say. But one can write a story in which Erika appears, and Erika can even definitely and without question be a real, living, human person on the board of that story.

But, as LyricalAura pointed out, the cups and coins trick is a suggestion as to how this sort of thing could play out, allowing the guestroom reds to apparently contradict each other and then subsequently to conceptually deny Erika.

Erika is incapable of thinking outside the bounds of her current scenario; she's very good within that context, but doesn't grasp story trickery (and possibly textual trickery with red). This is the main weakness she has compared to Bern, who definitely does seem to have that skill. She intuitively understands that the works are fiction, but she doesn't take the next step in realizing what that can mean.

Example resolution to the Logic Error: On one board, Kanon exists (in some form), evades being entrapped in a room through Method X (name check/shkanon/etc.), and rescues Battler. This Kanon is still in the closet on that board. This is what Beatrice figured out when Kanon told her to go on the offensive. She's not making Kanon go anywhere. She's misdirecting Erika by talking about something else. Preying on assumptions is the core of Beatrice's closed room MO. So she finds a scenario in which Kanon doesn't exist in the room (I suspect she may be talking about "reality," in which Kanon perhaps does not exist at all) and postulates an entirely true red about his non-existence.

Erika is blindsided by this and loses. Before her denial, however, she figures this out, which is what she means by the "Witch of Truth" accepting the truth about herself. The truth in this scenario is subjective, and she will never win against an opponent aware of that. To prove it, she advances the red about her own existence, which she already knows Beatrice can counter. By doing so, Beatrice is forced to tip her hand about subjectivity and variable red, even though it successfully denies Erika.

(NOTE: This was just an example of a way you could use nested boards to resolve ep6)

Arguably, awareness of this subjectivity could be a bad thing to know in the wrong hands...
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