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Old 2011-10-13, 05:05   Link #84
Klashikari
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Belgium, Brussels
Age: 37
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Originally Posted by alumnox View Post
As I said we could have our own personal likes or dislikes about it but the game (at least for me) is clear about the interaction between avalon and the dark matter.

Spoiler for FSN:
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Originally Posted by Rethice View Post
Everyone keeps on telling alumnox he's wrong, but he's the only one providing evidence of his point, and lots of it...

Does anyone have proof that it was Excalibur and not Avalon that purified the grail, other than just saying he's wrong?
That doesn't even count as evidence whatsoever.
First and foremost: the VN insist on -destroyed- grail (which is, as cherry lover already explained, the lesser holy grail, not the Great Grail).
Purify would mean its truest sense: the grail would have been no longer tainted and be just a pure prana artifact, which would be the appropriate wish granting machine.
Thus the question: if Shirou "really" purified it, why would he destroy it afterwards? Why would Waver and Rin go as far as dealing with the -greater holy grail- later?

The lesser grail is just a catalyst that was accumulating the Heroic Spirits in order to allow itself to materialize fully, in order to open wide the connection with the Greater Grail which is below the Mount Enzou
Spoiler for End of Fate Zero:

This is the very reason why the Mud was still sipping out, which generated that incident at Fuyuki. This is also the reason why Illiya had to shut the door herself in Heaven's Feel.
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