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Old 2021-12-04, 16:31   Link #7580
bashkim1234
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Originally Posted by Xuanwu View Post
The criteria for Ultimate-class is this:


From the comments of Issei in Volume 12 and Shin DxD 1, it's apparent that Ultimate-class devils are far more powerful than the usual High-class devils. Also from the fact that they were the ones mobilized to stop the Bandersnatch & Jabberwocky invasion.

So the criteria should be:

*Strength surpassing High-class devils
*Certain level of contribution in the Underworld
*Being a direct descendant of the original Maou (which would also mean far more demonic power than High-class devils)


I don't understand this, can you rephrase it?
Well first thank you for your response.
I am sorry, that I did not explained well:
The classes did not make sense, because they are social status in the underworld, although they are also used as measurement for strength. How strong a devil must be to be qualified to be an ultimate class devil in terms of strengths? I mean sure you need to be stronger than a high-class devil, but not all the high class devil are equal in strength: I mean Sairaorg Bael defeated Zephyrdor. Sure this guy was joke, but his demonic power are above Rias. And Sairaorg has barely any demonic powers.

Well I will try to explained in detail: When Sona´s sister was introduce, Sona was worried, because he knew she has a sister complex, as she could destroy Japan easy sure Japan is not a big country, but we got an idea how strong a satan class devil might be. We did not knew full strength of her based just on Sona´s comment, but it was just a guess. As the story continued we learn that even the weakest god surpass a satan class devil in terms of strength. So we were introduce to Vali´s grandfather Rizevim Livan Lucifer who was the first super devil. We learn that, when a devil exceed the power of Maou he is consider irregular as devil or a super devil. So rivals the gods. Sure the author never stated, that Rizevim Livan Lucifer was among the 10 strongest. So it means, that when you surpass the satan level you are super devil. We know that Sirzeches and Ajkua are among the top 10. Rizevim could fight with Ise DxD mode G was far stronger, that his pseudo DxD mode.
So if a devil surpass Maou level he is super devil, because a super devil is just a god class being. So when Rias use her Forbidden Invade Balor the Princess for the first time her power was above Satan level. Does this idea make sense ? In my honest opinion,no. If you surpass Satan level you reached the power of the gods, which are stronger than a satan level. So if Rias´s and Sairorg are above satan classed, why are the not superdevil? As Ise stated about Sairorg, that his power is above satan class. He would need his pseudo DxD mode to fight Saiorg. Which proves, that he has reached the level of the gods. I mean we know Ise CxC is satan class why he did not think about to use Boost to increase his satan power? Ise has realized that it does matter how much he Booted his power, it would not be enough to fight Sairorg, so he needs his strongest form to win.
It is unforunted that Sairogr has reached his limit.

Last edited by bashkim1234; 2021-12-04 at 17:12. Reason: Correction
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