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Old 2008-10-25, 07:47   Link #96
Sordes Pilosus
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Age: 39
First C.A. thank you for being here and explaining details regarding Haki in a nice way for unfamilier user's, it makes the work for people like me with distinct theories much easier since it saves us from brining up alot of the same as basis for our arguments and theories. So hopefully this theory will bring some light into how Haki is capable of Harming Devil Fruit user's, Logia's espesialy.


First a few facts about Logia User's:
Logia user's are basicly Devil Fruit user's with the ability of an Element, while not all are standard elements like Smoke and Sand aint standards elements in the world they have however the same properties as elements like Fire and Thunder etc, a Logia user's before Haki was properly introduced was only weak against its Natural Enemies, for instance shown in Enel with Luffy being imune and able to nutrelise Enel's thunder and hitting him directly. However the fact that Luffy could hit him proves a few more things about Logia user's. Even in their elemental form their stil "connected" to all parts of their body. Which means that when they go "Elemental" like for instance Crocodile when he speaks and luffy hits him to just hit the sand, its stil something that connects the "missing parts" to the main body. So when Luffy hit into the "thunder" or "Enel" wanted to avoid Luffy's punched by going elemental he was unable because Luffy's rubber was able to do a direct connection to the element. Its this prinsiple i will now build on further.


Part of this theory started when I began to wonder, why aint Logia user's supreme ? Intil now there hasent really been shown any true big exploitable weakness in Logia user's so why for instance wherent the Marine's or World Goverment heavily attacked by combined Logia user's, its already shown that there are a few of these outside of the Marines, and with Ace being fire one of the Admirals (Ice) already being at a dinstinct disadvantage. And over time why dident this happend ? Well the answer is that there are things that Negates or is capable of Hurting them in their element form. Before Seastones where known, but why where Sea Stones effective ? because they emited the same type of energy as the sea, and this canceled out the Devil Fruits power. The keyword here is Energy. An element is also a form for Energy. And that, is also what Haki is.


Haki:
Haki is as explained by C.A. a manifistation of ones will or Spirit, Spirit Power in tones of games, Flames in Hitman Reborn, Nen in Hunter x Hunter, Chackra in Naruto etc are all based around the same prinsiples or simular concepts but used differently to give them a uniq feel or use in their respective creations. However it doesent change the fact in all the key common element is that its a form for power or energy. And if you clash two Energies against each other, you cause a reaction, if one energy is vastly superior it will "blow away the other" as if two people with bats aim to strike at the same time at each other's bats, the stronger one will dominate the other because he will produce more energy into the swing. So when attacks with Haki meets up against a Logia user's in their elemental form (basicly their hit imunutity) it creates a clash of energies, its not the "attack itself" that hurts the Logia user, but the Haki in the attack. So its quite different from Black Beards fruit that "negates" the ability much like seastones. Haki however creates "sparks or clashes" of energy. And this again harms the Logia user because its the Logia user's body that becommes the "focus point" for the energy clash.

This theory holds alot of waight based on the most recent chapter by this posts creation (Chapter 519) where the two younger Boa sister's is capable of inflicting Physical/Blunt attacks that directly harms Luffy's rubber body. This is because these attacks that does this dammage is imbued with Haki, this means that the Haki in the attacks directly harms the target even if a fruit power would naturaly make the person imune to it. Raighlith's fight against the Admiral on the Archipello also indicates or more acuraly proves that Haki based attacks is capable of clashing with Logia user's. But its not like Haki removes the fruit abilities, it just allows a method of harming the Logia user. But attacks with Haki also becommes naturaly stronger against Non Logia oponents, the Arrows fired by the Kuja proves this fact as they becomme much stronger and Margaret also explains that its only natural for attacks imbued with Haki. If we piece together these informations that has been presented to us so far regarding Haki, we get the general direction on how and why Logia user's aint the "Most Dominate" while they have the strongest powerups in their fruits, they have a natural enemie on the "higher stages" that limits their value, its like Logia instantly boosts you from level 1 to 70, but with stil alot of levels 70+ around and that Logia fruits are so rare since there is a more distinct limit to amount of Elements it creates the reason why Logia user's arent the "strongest around", that their insanly strong naturaly is a given. But it adds a enemie to Logia user's alongside their Natural Enemies/Oposiing Elements or Seastones that is harder to avoid in battle.


And other reason why Haki can harm Logia "Its a plot device needed at this point of time due to the Straw Hats distinct inability to deal with a now growing range of Logia user's around them. 2 Admirals and 1 Commander with Logia has already gone up against them which they are unable to fight. There is also Black Beard while he takes physical dammage he can negate other fruits so a other form for attack that doesent rely on fruits is needed here. And then we have seen Crockodile, Enel and Ace as 3 other Logia user's. And there are stil a few posibilities left for Logia types they can encounter in the New World, Haki presents the crew with a Method of fighting these enemies thats sure to come and acting as the natural buffer, and its not sudden either just well hidden in the manga so far. This indicates its something planed from the start to act as a natural powerup at the very least for Luffy, but also likly some more of his crew.
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