[Keroko]

Originally Posted by arkhangelsk

1) Is that real material? Remember, this is the same pseudomatter crap that was penetrated by Nanoha without causing any real damage to Quattro.

(Yeah, I know what you are thinking, but when the alternative is physics defying, the latitude in rationalizations increase - that's part of SoD too).

So the ocean in S1 is 'pseudomater crap' as well? Magic damage has the physics defying abillity to damage material and yet not harm humans since forever. When Nanoha fired her Starlight Breaker on Fate in S1, there was a huge collum of water, even though Fate was virtually unharmed, same thing aplies here.

Originally Posted by arkhangelsk

2) Procedural fault: You can't take the end result frame for it. It is like refuting the A's scene by going straight to the part where Fate picks herself out of the dirt. You are supposed to take a series of shots (frame by frame) centered around when Nanoha was thrown into the wall.

There is no such scene, unfortunately. That's how the scene starts. However, seeing Vivio's fighting style it is very easy to asume she was either punched or blasted into the wall. No matter how she got there, the point is there was no Protection up to help her out, otherwise we would have had a nice round dent, not a form-fitting one..

Originally Posted by arkhangelsk

3) In fact, if we insist on just taking your frame alone, it actually supports MY theory. An active defense MUST have been involved. Look carefully at the shoulder cloth. Note that the hole actually goes in a contour around the bulge of the cloth. But a BJ complex and cloth is simply too soft for this (we know this from how they keep flapping around in mere wind), and thus, what will have happened is that the cloth will fold around and outwards instead of punching a neat hole in the wall as if it is a one-piece hard shell.

Barrier. Jackets. Generate. Barriers.

How often must we say this? It is even stated that the gems on Nanoha's cloth generate Barriers, which you continously choose to ignore. It is those defenses that saved Nanoha. A Protection would have left a round shaped dent in the wall, not a figure hugging one, the only answer is that the Barrier generated by the Barrier Jacket is what saved her. It is not mere cloth that took the hit, I don't know why you keep insisting that cloth is the only thing a Barrier Jacket has, Barrier Jackets generate Field and Barriers, which can take hits normal cloth can't. Scenes like StrikerS 21, 06:37 (where Nanoha ups the powerfeed to her Barrier Jacket to allow her to fight in AMF conditions) show us that those defenses form around the body and cloth.

The clothes flapping in the wind is simply done for animation purposes, it gives the feeling as if they are flying very fast. If the clothes wouldn't flap, the idea of speed is lost. Animation 101.

Originally Posted by arkhangelsk

Further, since we are talking the cuttable by windblast BJ, it is unlikely it'll have survived the collision so well - the sides that are rubbing against the wall should have torn.

And I'm still saying its impossible for a mere puff of wind from a passing bug to tear cloth, that is defying your precious laws of physics itself. Obviously there has to be something that allowed it to cut cloth, even with your logic.