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Old 2013-06-24, 12:35   Link #32462
Kiltias
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So what are the thoughts on Rudolf mentioning and following the 36 Stratagems in EP3?
He's already the least trustworthy person on Rokkenjima and quoting as well as following that certainly doesn't help him either.

What I mean is just look at them:
"A plain lie. Make somebody believe there was something when there is in fact nothing. One method of using this strategy is to create an illusion of something's existence, while it does not exist."

" Revive something from the past by giving it a new purpose or bring to life old ideas, customs, or traditions and reinterpret them to fit your purposes. "

"Bait someone by making him believe he gains something"

" Through the use of artifice and disguise, make something of no value appear valuable; of no threat appear dangerous; of no use appear useful."

"You can mask your real goals, by using the ruse of a fake goal that everyone takes for granted, until the real goal is achieved. Tactically, this is known as an 'open feint'; in front of everyone, you point west, when your goal is actually in the east. By the time everyone realized it, you have already achieved your goal."

"Hide behind the mask of a fool, a drunk, or a madman to create confusion about your intentions and motivations. Lure your opponent into underestimating your ability until, overconfident, he drops his guard. Then you may attack. "

"When the enemy is too strong to be attacked directly, then attack something he holds dear.
The idea here is to avoid a head on battle with a strong enemy, and instead strike at his weakness elsewhere."

"Attack using the strength of another"

"There are circumstances in which you must sacrifice short-term objectives in order to gain the long-term goal. This is the scapegoat strategy whereby someone else suffers the consequences."

"Never directly attack an opponent whose advantage is derived from its position. Instead lure him away from his position thus separating him from his source of strength. "

"Undermine your enemy's ability to fight by secretly causing discord between him and his friends, allies, advisors, family, commanders, soldiers, and population."

"Inflict injury upon yourself to win enemy trust."

Rudolf for example was shown to use the 36th and even quoted it.
"If all else fails retreat"
Yet, that stratagem isn't about saving your life it's about saving ones chance to win/succeed.

They're all about using trickery and ruses to succeed, after reading this I just can't shake the feeling he and Kyrie may play far more important roles as some kind of "Puppeteers", having somehow manipulated certain events.

Hell Eva stated Rudolf is violent by nature and Rosa even feared that one brother is gonna make things really dirty followed by Rudolf all alone being the one finding Rosa and Maria dead in EP 3.
Heck there is no way I'll regard it as coincidence that Rudolf's name refers to a goddamn Wolf while we have the entire thing about Wolves and Sheep showing 2 Wolves,Beatrice fearing Wolves or how Wolf is a term used in EP 2 for the Culprits.
He's even a Bishop in EP 3 who stand for Manipulation but also Snakes.

I'm not saying he and Kyrie and THE Culprits but that they may have some major influence on alot of events.


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1. I think, Yasu is always the culprit of the gameboard.
Unarguably.

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There are not a single culprit in Prime. Everybody is guilty. Everybody kills someone, and there’s no mastermind behind it.
Nah, Prime Culprit is Rosa or Kyrie and Rudolf.
Ever heard of an Allegory?
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Definition:

The rhetorical strategy of extending a metaphor through an entire narrative so that objects, persons, and actions in the text are equated with meanings that lie outside the text.
One of the most basic concepts of story writing.

You just gotta see how it all fits together.

1967 Rosa believes in Magic and Witches and wanted to be one herself- 1967 Kuwadorian Beatrice won't leave her "cage" due to Wolves - Name Rudolf refers to Wolf - Eva stated Rudolf had always been violent - Rosa feared Rudolfs action in EP 3 should Eva remain quite about the Gold - Rudolf is constantly portrayed as the downright biggest scum on Rokkenjima.

Beatrice died by falling down a cliff, an event from which Rosa still suffer - Yasu fell down a cliff and sustained a major injury.

Rosa wants to be a butterfly yet she trapped butterflies in spider webs - spider webs work against Beatrice - Rosa shown caught in a Spider Web as a Butterfly - again, Rosa wants to be a Butterfly - Maria is the one who said Beatrice turns into Butterflies - Beatrices magic returned due to the Alliance with Maria - Rosa once had dreams of being a Witch - Maria is has a near obsession with "Fixing the single sick Rose in the garden" - Rosa can even mean Rose - The Golden Land does not exist without Maria.

Kinzo and Kuwadorian Beatrice have a child - Kinzo named Rosas child - Kinzo gives HIS children weird names - Rosa had the name changed to Maria - Despite Kinzo not giving 2 fucks about Maria, Rosa doing so made him very furious - Beatrice said what Kinzo wants most lodges within Maria - Rosa mentioned the Family tree reminds her of a River and that the Epitaph is about Maria - Occult believe mentions about 1 Source and 4 rivers, one leading to Gold another to a dark abyss, about a path to resurrect someone dead by a rebirth to which the womb must belong to 1 of 4 women - 4 women, Rosa,Kyrie,Eva,Natsuhi - Kinzo is into the Occult to resurrect Beatrice.

4 Rivers - Rudolf, Eva, Rosa, Krauss - One Leads to Gold another to a Dark Abyss - Within Maria lodges what Kinzo wants most - Kyrie and Rudolfs actions in 3,7 and 8.

It's all in the clues, those who say otherwise probably don't know that even the "Nipah" in Higurashi was a clue.
I mean fuck Rosa was trapped in a Spider Web as a butterfly:
"A Spider sitting in its web watching till its prey is entangled represents being caught in the illusion of the physical world."

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