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Old 2012-03-17, 02:13   Link #20221
GundamFan0083
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Originally Posted by Kokukirin View Post
The rest I feel you are being unfair to the president.
You are free to feel that way.

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He did not make any decision on the ATF operations. You can't hold him responsible for mistakes made by a bureau under the DOJ. What does his statement of "90% of weapons in Mexico come from US" have to do with it? Nothing.
Actually his claim has a great deal to do with the Fast and Furious operation.
If he was unaware of the operation, it doesn't matter, it's still his responsibility as President, and now he will bear whatever consequences come of this screw up (one of a long line of many) on the part of BATF.

If he did know about it, then he will be in even hotter water due to the obvious connection between his call for a renewed assault weapon ban, and selling guns to Mexican drug lords makes it look like a scandalous attempt to justify such a ban was underway.

Whether true or not is irrelelvent, the facts are simple.
Holder knew what was going on and Obama is protecting Holder.

Obama should have cut Holder loose to save his own political behind.
Protecting Holder only makes Obama look either complicit or incompetent.

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The NDAA? It was the budget of the defence department. If he vetoed it, he was certain to be overruled by the Congress. The law would still pass anyways, and he would open himself to all sorts of attacks. So he threatened the veto to scale down the troubling parts, and signed a statement that effectively made the indefinite detention all but impossible. It is not the best outcome you'd like to see. But it was probably the best he could do given the circumstances.
Don't make excuses for Obama.
There is no probably about it.
He caved to the military industrial complex's wishes, which shows he's weak.

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FAA allowing UAV to fly in the US......how does it even affect your privacy? UAVs can't see anything you do in your home, just as a helicopter can't. If you walk outside, there are dozens of ways to observe you that are easier than flying an UAV. With UAV technology maturing and with many potential good uses of it, it's a natural step to open up the airspace to UAVs.
You're kidding?
You have heard of the 4th Amendment, about how American citizens shall not be subject to "searches..." without a warrant.
Flying a drone with weapons (like the Shadowhawk) and/or cameras that can see into private areas of a person's home or yard is a direct violation of the 4th Amendment.
Even the ACLU understands this.

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Obama's foreign policies are far more sensible than Bush's. His administration is much more inclined to seek cooperation with allies, a stark contrast of Bush's unilateralism. He started an operation in Libya after securing a resolution in UN, support from Arab countries, and allies to participate. The operation ended with its main goal achieved and no additional troops deployed in the region. He ended Iraq War as scheduled. He confronted Iran with the harsh sanctions and forced them back to negotiation. He didn't make progress on Israel and Palestine but that's pretty much the expected outcome - Israel's right wing government was not interested in talks. On Afghanistan, he had to make troops stay to stabilize the situation. A premature withdrawal may well see Taliban coming back in power and bring trouble in the future. I really don't see any serious mistake from Obama in foreign policies.
The Iraq war is not over.

Leon Penetta is continuing the exact same policy under Obama as Bush.
How is that any different from Bush with the same Secretary of Defense in charge?
Bush actually did go to the UN to get their permission, even though it was rejected.
Who do think told his administration there were WMDs?
My problem with Obama is that he is supposed to go to congress, NOT the UN, to get permission to wage war.
However, Obama has simply followed Bush's bad example and used the UN as an excuse to engage in military combat operations without congressional approval.

Maybe I'm not being fair, but sometimes the truth isn't.
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