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Old 2011-09-10, 09:40   Link #16421
bladeofdarkness
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Originally Posted by DonQuigleone View Post
Historically, Islamic countries have actually been quite tolerant of Jews. At least compared to Christian Europe.
thats the catch here.
its like saying that the KKK was quite tolerant of Jews when compared to how the Nazi's treated them.
Jews were still discriminated against in various ways, including :
1)forbidden from riding horses
2)carrying weapons.
3)testifying in court
4)marrying muslim women.
5)forced to pay a jizya tax.
and were often subject to violence and pogroms dating back MUCH earlier then Israel's creation.

the Myth of "Islamic countries have actually been quite tolerant of Jews" is exactly that.
a Myth.

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Originally Posted by DonQuigleone View Post
Even if Arab leaders first started using it as a scapegoating tactic, Israel has done plenty to justify the poor view arabs have of it. You have to bear in mind, that arabs see Israel as a foreign entity, occupying land that is rightfully there. The extremely high wealth disparity between Palestinians and Israelis only confirms Israel's illegitimacy.
and yet, the high wealth disparity between Israeli's and Egyptians or Israeli's and Syrians doesn't confirm it ?
what does it hate to do with anything.

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Just like Jews in Israel feel sympathy when Jews are discriminated against around the world, Arabs outside the Levant feel immense sympathy with Palestinians.
the Arabs detest the Palestinians.
they sympathize with the "Palestinian CAUSE", but as a people, the Arabs universally consider the Palestinians as scumbags.
and not without being given good reason for it.

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Originally Posted by Haak View Post
I want to see if he's going to mention two specific wars between Israel and Egypt. It just seems rarther strange to me that he had yet to point them out despite them obviously being important.
I'm guessing (we had more then just two) you mean the 1956 one that was the result of Egypt closing the straits of tiran to Israeli shippings and repeated attacks by "Fedayeen" coming out of Egyptian controlled Gaza.

and the 1967 war that was the result of Egypt and Syria concentrating large troop build up on Israel's borders in clear violation of the 1956 Armistice agreement.
and also closing the straits of tiran to Israeli shippings. again.

both cases saw Arab actions against Israel which ended up backfiring when Israel chose to retaliate.
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