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Originally Posted by Raiza Sunozaki
Whether or not the meta-world exists has no effect on the murders, so I've never bothered to deny it; in fact, I accept it. As Ryuukishi said, Umineko is not a conventional mystery. Currently, I see this as meaning it's a mystery within a fantasy story. The mystery of Rokkenjima itself is an amazing puzzle, but currently you must have at least a meta-world standing to solve it. And if Umineko is a fantasy story, than the meta-world can exist.
I'm not saying the solution to the mystery requires a fantasy explanation, the explanation will only use clues provided in the episodes and human logic. It's just currently impossible to solve Umineko without access to the meta-world.
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Yes, for Meta-Battler. For Ange and the other characters in 1998, however, Hachijou's novels exist, and for us, the readers, we have, well, the story itself.
You don't NEED to be in the Meta-World to solve Umineko. You and I certainly aren't.
I think people are reading too much into Ryukishi's "this isn't a conventional mystery" declaration... I think he's just talking about the fake scenes and the meta-narrative rather than the existence of magic. One thing chronotrig is definitely correct about is the idea of magic being a pleasant false alternative to the real events, since that's the way it's been presented in the story for quite some time now.
Spoiler for examples of magic = happy lies:
-It wasn't one of your family who's responsible for everyone's deaths, Battler, it was me, the evil witch. Hate me, please, for the love of god.
-George and I got together because of my magical contract, and thanks to it, nothing can possibly go wrong. No, I'm not still in love with Battler, I've moved on, really. (Actually, this one makes little sense.)
-It wasn't you who broke this vase, it was that cat over there. Don't worry, your grandfather isn't going to kill you.
-It isn't my mother who's being a horrible evil bitch to me, it's a bad witch possessing her. UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
-It's not like I'm alone and friendless, I have this magical book with me teaching me how to open the Chamber of Secrets.
-Amakusa isn't a murderer, I totally killed these people with my epic furniture. No, he didn't just snipe me in the face, I transported myself into the meta-world to confront Beatrice. Yup.
-Kinzo isn't dead, he's just hiding. In this room. And he'll implode if anyone opens it. Also he actually values all the effort I've put into keeping this family stable over the years that I've never been rewarded for at all.
See what I mean? Magic is a lie. It isn't real. It doesn't exist. It's the happy ending.
