[Aaron008R]

YES!!! 20K!!! ANOTHER VICTORY FOR OUTER CADIAAAAAAAA!!!!



Nice going, Tormenk!

I'll reply to the longer posts later... In a bit of a hurry right now...

Originally Posted by LoweGear

Belkarangers: *latches on and presses themselves into Aurion*

ONEGAI, SENSEI!!!!!

Aurion: Why me...? Gah, fine... but don't expect me to perform at all like you'd expect. -__- (Maybe if I just let them beat me easily...)

Me: Hate flaunting your true combat capability, huh?

Now that's a good rant when I see one

No problems on my side, since I'd like to see Hayate beefed-up and get the credit she deserves

Thanks.

Originally Posted by Kha

I meant in all timelines.

*RUNS*

Not in my timeline.

Me? Apologize? About what?

You know what.

Originally Posted by Anita

^_^

Apologize, or you're sleeping on the couch when you get back!

Originally Posted by Kha

...
...
...

REALLY?! I GET TO STAY OVER AGAIN?!

*runs*

Originally Posted by LoweGear

Spoiler for ”Low Key Celebration”:

DON'T UNDERESTIMATE US!!!!

Whether it be BACKLOG, BLUECHEESIUM or CRACK, they are nothing to us!

WE WILL PIERCE THE POSTS AND PAGES YOU'VE CREATED!!!!

THAT IS WHO WE ARE!!!!

THE OUTER CADIANS!!!!!



USB500:
Even if we were to be enslaved in writing's cycle of rebirth!
Keroko:
The feelings that were left behind shall open the door!!
Aaron008R:
Even if the Infinite Backlog were to go against us!!!
Nightengale:
Our Burning Blood shall cut through fate!!!!
Kha:
WE WILL BREAK THROUGH THE HEAVENS AND DIMENSIONS!!!!!

OC:
WE WILL SCRIBE OUR PATH THROUGH FORCE!!!!!!!!!



ORE TACHI WO!!!
DARE DATTO OMOTTE YAGARU!!!!!!

AND OC GOES THROUGH 20000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Congratulations OC

AND TORMENK WINS 20K!!!!!!! And with a scenario no less!!!!! AWESOME!!!!

SIEG, CADIA!!!!

Originally Posted by Anita

It's only right we pay back for what we owe. Congratz everyone! I'll try to finish Rebuild of Sophia by this week! ^_^

Ja ne!

(rides off on scooter)

Will look forward to it!

Originally Posted by Nightengale

20,000... BREAK.

500... BREAK.

And yet the road is still infinite.

Spoiler for OVER 20,000!!!!!!!!:

Gods of Altra Space : This is not a realm possible for you people. Turn back, Outer Cadians.

Nighty: You are not Chaos! He was banned, for our sake!

Kha: How many people do think have 'moved on' for us to come this far!?

USB: Don't underestimate us!

Keroko: Despite disbelief, despite suffering, despite moments of blues, despite sacrifices...

Tormenk: we have came this far, kicking reason to the curb, being off-topic and scaring 'some' mods!

Kagerou: We have our differences, our views, but our heart is one.

Goose: The power of us Cadians is not so weak that'd we...

Aaron: LOSE TO YOU!!!!!!!!!!

Liingo: WHO ARE WE!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

ALL: OUTER CADIANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

~~~

Liingo: We have done it... breaking 20,000... and 500.

OC: Dream... An Hero...Wibbles... haiz...Pure... Kaiser...Flame...

Nighty: and Chaos.

Nighty: We've lost many important comrades... one only temporary though.

OC: We will live on, and survive. Towards S4 and beyond! Our path is opened... btw, we welcome those watching us on the sidelines as well. We know you're there.

Btw, preview for Blank of 6 Months I.

Spoiler:

His eyes glanced as his image in the darkness started to clear itself before my eyes, which was previously clouded with fear, now awakened to the sight of the legends.

Wearing a simple outfit of black, he turned to me as he knelled, asking me “Are you okay?” in strong, manly voice.

He was a man in his late 20s, oriental features chiseled on his face; he had the look of a veteran despite his reasonable youth. Possessing noticeable black hair, slightly messy with sharp eyes just as they are deep, penetrative into ones soul with a knitted brow and a tight-lipped mouth.

“What’s so interesting? It sounds like a regular description for any novel.”

Rein only nodded in accordance to Aurion’s interjector.

“Don’t you think the description sounds awfully like Ojii-chan?”

~~~

Though the 67th Ground Forces Branch Forces were credited to the quick and effective handling of the incident before it escalated into a large-scale incident that might’ve required the assistance of the Air Force or even the Navy, there were rumors that persisted the existence of a faction that was the true reason for the incident to not go into Class B-classification, and was resolved at 2nd Level C.

…”Ala Altra.”

SO YOU'RE REALLY GOING THRU WITH IT?!?!?!

Mind sharing some details with me? >.>

Originally Posted by Keroko

Dweh, good question. I'd say him and Keroko would get along fine, probably joking around a lot.

After the discussion below, they might very well be!

No problem on my part.

Good to know.

On the subject of Hayate in melee, I think she was mostly joking when she said she couldn't even beat Caro in hand-to-hand:

Spoiler for IS: Silver Retriever:

Look at her facial expresion, not to mention Teana and Rein, who are not taking her seriously in any way whatsoever.

Yeah... But I'm aiming a bit higher...

Originally Posted by Tormenk

Well the omake did mention Erio cleaning up the mess so it can be taken as he had the dream after the events of the sparring session.

Though I realized the focus was on Erio abit too much so here's a short version of one of the possible scenarios as well.

Spoiler:

"3 days? Well beats being knocked out for one week by your cooking I suppose." Signum deadpanned as she adjusted her uniform against the mirror. She had to keep up a acceptable appearance even if she did appear younger for now. Surprisingly, Signum found her short hair to be a refreshing change, having kept her hair in a long ponytail for as long as she could remember.

"Hayate-chan! Signum's being mean again!" The motherly physician was on the verge of tears from Signum's remark about her cooking.

"Maa ma, I'm sure Signum meant it as an encouragement for you to improve your skills in the kitchen." Hayate giggled over the mini family-dispute.

"Hayate-chan too! Mou I'm going back to work now!"

"As will I. I'll see you for dinner later Hayate."

"Sure Signum."

Exiting from Hayate's office, Signum took a right at the first corner and promptly bumped headfirst into Erio, the two missing each other due to the blind corner.

Normally such a blow would hardly had fazed her but Signum was knocked back onto her elbows as well from the collison. Erio was the first to recover though.

"Ah so that's where you have been Caro. Fate-san said we had a few hours off before dinner so let's go."

Caro? Mondial thinks I'm Caro? Well we do share some similarities now that I'm in this younger body with short hair but hardly enough for a resemblance. I'll have to correct him.

Signum was still on the floor as Erio offered his hand.

"Let's go shall we?"

Strangely, any words Signum was preparing flew out of her mind at the gesture. More so that she took his hand without protest and went along with him.

It was near the front door that Signum had manged to pull anything out of her mouth again.

"Erio, th-"

"We have plenty of time today so there's no rush. So let's take this time to enjoy ourselves shall we?"

Signum found she could do nothing but agree at Erio's words.

Besides, she found the feeling of holding Erio's hand to be..how should she put it? A new experience because she had never done so before?

Realizing that this was the first time that she had ever held a male's hands like this only served to put a slight blush on her face.

>.>

<.<

>_<

SIGNUMXERIO CRACK FTW!!!

*RUNS LIKE HELL FROM SIGNUM*

Wow. Pretty hard to go through with this while replying like this but I'll try.

Range Attack: She can probably do it at near 100% casting speed as original, since she does know some Mid-magic. Only factors in this are experience and practice so extensive practice in that area will be fine.

Well, maybe. But I'll keep her casting slower...

Melee Attack: Even if she can't attack that well, she probably develop the natural feel to dodge after training with Tesla/Wolkies after some time. Keeping her at slightly above grunt level seems fine.

That's good!

Magic defense: I'm for buffing her up for this. Given enough time, I'm sure she can tank blows up to AA easily. Not quite while defending physical blows of the same power with barriers or shields though.

Noted.

Novel? What novel?

Nanoha novel. it might show if Fate does indeed use some finesse into her melee...

BTW, CONGRATS ON GETTING THE 20K GET!

Originally Posted by tshouryuu

I would like to run an idea of mine by you guys for a while before I truly get started on it. Lowe never replied so I decided to ask every one instead.

Spoiler for VUDs:

Viral-type Unity Device - Partial Notes

A vast corruption of the ideology of a Unison Device. Unlike most unison devices, viral devices do not possess their own wills, only possessing that of their creator. They have limited sentience and a form which normally looks like a glowing spark. Like normal unison devices, these devices can “unite” with users to provide Mana control in great volume and speed but without the mage even being aware of it. One other function of this device is that it accesses memories of the infected person and "records" them while the person is sleeping. A person might experience a dream consisting of those memories when they're being accessed

However, that is just the infection stage. At a certain time, the device will forcefully cause loss of consciousness to the infected and “take over” the user and operate autonomously based on the will of the creator. When the viral device is successful in "taking over" the infected, an effect, similar to that of a user loosing control of a Unison device will occur. However, instead of taking on the appearance of the device like normal Unity-type devices, the infected will be mutated via transformation magics into a more terrifying form based on certain conditions.

All those that are infected have chances to fight off the "taking over". This is done by combating the VUD within Internal Space. While this battle for control is going on, the VUD has control of the body and access to whatever abilities/ equipment the infected has. Usually, only those that have extraordinary wills or power can suppress the VUD taking over attempts.

Spoiler for Plan:

My plan is to have a secret organization of rogue elements, existing in the TSAB to develop and use this to create a huge army of loyal, controlled, magic wielding "monsters" which is made up of the majority of the TSAB forces, thus forcing the "heroes" to fight against a vast force of what used to be comrades for their very survival.

Its a fairly crazy idea but is it viable or should I shut down my delusions of grandeur?

The idea seems similar to what Chaos had in mind in the past... If it was me, I don't see why not. The details needed some more are that of the organization behind it. And also, are they on the same level as unison-devices in performance?

Originally Posted by Erio

I dont see any problems with this, and in fact I agree with most of what you have here. The thing is, this is just a mock battle - I dont see what's so important about it. In the real battlefield, Hayate shouldnt need to actually fight (especially in close combat, since she is not particularly good at it, and she knows it) if she properly commands her unit, unless absolutely necessary, or her Knights are not with her. What I'm trying to say is, arent you thinking too much about this? She is supposed to be a ranged support, not a melee aggressor, after all. It is what makes her Hayate and not Nanoha.

As I have said before, Hayate CHOSE to be support and to become a Lt. Colonel to lead troops into battle instead of fighting the battles herself. She had the potential to choose whatever path she wanted - to become an Enforcer like Fate, or to become an "Aggressor" like Nanoha - but she chose otherwise. You can give Hayate quite a lot of character development without making her go into the battlefield - and I actually may have a scenario coming with a little of that.

Just my thoughts.

I know. And I understand that. However, even though not specializing is no problem, at all; having no capability and practice just in case is not. More so since 'Aurion' is the one who'll be charging her head-on. And besides, I've already mapped-out a list of rationales for Hayate's further improvement, both personal and professional. It's not like I'm trying to make her adapt to everything, oh no. But I'm just injecting some practicality and a bit of my own flair for the sake of my story. Well, she DID decide for back-support because that's where she fits best. And I accept that. BUT being back-support while being helpless on her own, i.e. the battle's lost when her guardians are down, that I CANNOT accept! She is a back-attacker and always will be, but that doesn't mean she has to be limited to the basic idea for the rest of her life!(Note: GenerationS is 2 years after StrikerS) It may sound a bit too personal, but I believe that one shouldn't waste potential just like that. This isn't an RPG where the amount of stats are limited so you can only specialize in one or at most two factors while being essentially zero in others factors. And she'll more than hell need it for my story, since there WILL be more than one occations that she'll be forced to fend for herself without Rein. The very first example is the mock battle against Aurion. you think he'll go easy with her just because of their closeness or her lack of specialization? Oh no, he'll maul her down if she can't hold out. She's NOT practicing for forward offense. She's practicing for off-chance defense in closer engagements in order to gain distance and do what she does best, nuking.

Whew...

And besides, I'm using a bit of author-freedom as well...

Is it okay? Is it fine?

Originally Posted by Reiji Tabibito

Arcas: <to Grandis> Still bringing up the past, are we? I only acted that way towards YOU, and only YOU. And you're capable of being just as much of a self-righteous, pig-headed jerk as I am, so you don't have that over me. And if you think Kha-sama and Yuuno-san are completely exempt, you're wrong. I am perfectly capable of giving both of them hell - Yuuno for his timidity, and Kha for his stupidity regarding other women, especially Sofy. Believe it or not, I once tried to strangle Kha-sama because he was being the galaxy's biggest idiot. The reason I don't give them NEARLY the crap I do other guys is because they've earned my trust - something YOU still have to do.

Grandis: Bringing up the past? Um... Hello? You're being a self-righteous, pig-headed jerk, even to the others right now! And no, the fact that I can be as such does not give you justification for being one right now. The "You're a jerk at times to so why not me now?" reasoning is oh-so typical of you it makes me want to barf. And no, I don't really think I need to earn your trust. Because as far as I can see right now, you're completely not worth wasting time to garner trust on. Oh, and to make things more fun, I think YOU are the galaxy's biggest idiot now!

Oh, and one last thing: is that all you got?

Grandis: Of course not. I can keep this up as long as I want.

AGAIN with the unmentioning! What am I, the thread's Hayate?

No. Screw that. you're this thread's ZAFIRA!

*RUNS LIKE HELL*

Originally Posted by Keroko

Keroko-chan: *glares* I think we need to discuss the difference between the words 'she-male' and 'androgynous' and lets go over the word 'tact' while we're at it.

Grandis: Wrong move, Arcas...

*various hospitalized members of the Hayate, Nanoha, Keroko and fate fanclubs* LIAR!!!!

Grandis:

Keroko-kun: Interesting. He's only proving Grandis point right now.

Tesla: *shrugs* That's the kind of guy he is.

Aaron: Sou, sou.

Originally Posted by Reiji Tabibito

Arcas: <sigh> My point isn't to say that I'm not capable of being that kind of person - my point is that I'm that kind of person LESS often than he is. Almost ANYONE is capable of being a jerk - how much of a jerk you are is dictated by the number of circumstances where you COULD act like one, but choose not to - a jerk quotient if you will. Grandis' point is that everyone has one. Mine is that mine is less than his. Not exactly the same thing.

Grandis: Fool. Try saying that to all these people. Me, more of a jerk than you? I disagree.

And you guys only bring up the Uguu~ thing cause I'm a guy. If I was a girl...

<holds up hands>

Aaron: *instant answer* Yes. That's why.

Originally Posted by Keroko

Tesla: *instant answer* A tactless, overprotective, rude person who jumps to conclusions faster then Fate can move. And you wonder why people call you a siscon.

Grandis: Don't forget to add self-righteous.

Originally Posted by Reiji Tabibito

Arcas: Tactless? Sure, it happens. Overprotective? Absolutely. Rude? On more than one occasion, but not always. Jumps to conclusions? Who DOESN'T, at least a few times? Tesla, if I'm supposed to be insulted by that, then you failed horribly. There're worse things to be in life.

Originally Posted by Reiji Tabibito

Arcas: Problem with the fanclubs are they all look and sound the same. So, unless they're wearing a bright neon sign which says "Just want to know them better," or something like that, they're gonna get the wrong end of Apalis.

You can't blame people for jumping to conclusions when they don't have all the information.

Grandis: you just jumped into a conclusion again, brain-dead. Tesla was obviously just answering your question straightforwardly.

Originally Posted by Keroko

Keroko-chan: *whacks Arcas on the back of his head* What is up with that bullshit! I taught you better then that! If you don't have enough information, you find more information, standart rules of engagement!

Grandis: True...

Which is my point, you're not leaving much of an impression despite being here for so long, which is why people forget you.

Aaron: Keroko... Blunt as Tesla, aren't we...

Originally Posted by Reiji Tabibito

Arcas: Ow! You don't have to hit me! And you don't always have the time to gather more information - sometimes you have to go in blind - Rogues know that better than anyone.

Grandis: Do you even bother? Or maybe you just don't bother enough. I'm betting on the latter.

Originally Posted by Keroko

Keroko-chan: ... you're hopeless. Oh well, I tried. Oi, Grandis, if you can teach him why tact is a good thing, feel free to do so. Don't hold back.

Grandis: I'll take a chance later, Keroko. Mr. Lord of the Dunamists is still in his "I'm right, you're wrong. And that's all there is to it!" mode. hammering sense into his brain right now is as easy as taking full-on ten of your sister's Starlight Breakers head-on. Baiting him while he's like this, on the other hand...

Keroko-chan: You're damn right I know! Why do you think Rogue Squadron has the highest casualty rate of any Squadron in the TSAB?! That's why I try to gather as much data as possible, even when its impossible to do so! Your irresponsible attitude is what costs us lives out there!

Originally Posted by Wild Goose

Franz: "And you're being an idiot."
Psycho: "And a sick fuck who wants to do his sisters."
Chief: "..."

Originally Posted by Reiji Tabibito

Arcas: Hey, it's not that I think tact is a BAD thing - it's just impractical sometimes.

Grandis: How about now? I don't think it isn't.

Arcas: Look, I'm not USED to intel gathering. The RAF has its own intelligence gathering department, which gives the squads the data we need. And I'm not irresponsible; I'm just as much in support of info gathering as you are - but I'll repeat myself - there are times when you CAN'T DO ANYTHING to gather intel! Then, you go in with what you have. That's not being irresponsible; that's being practical.

Grandis: I repeat, how about now? The last few times I saw you burn those poor guys into dust, you had all the chance to look into it more. It's like your implying that Hayate and the other Aces would just fall prey to other males' advances so easily... Arcas, you're statement of not being able to gather intelligence all of the time is correct. BUT, you are clearly not doing so when you have all the chance in the world! You jump into conclusions, cause collateral damage and then invoke that kind of reasoning to cover your ass? Stop bullshitting us, will you?

Reiji: Okay, seriously now. Is this We-Hate-Arcas Day or something? Seems like every time I have him make an intimation against Grandis, half the major OCs of the thread gangbang him for was a stupid, honest mistake. Seriously, it was my idea that he didn't like (and still doesn't, to a degree) Hayate's boyfriend. It seems awfully vindictive to jump a character whose only mistake (from where I sit) is that he didn't roll over regarding their romance.

It's much more interesting this way.

Originally Posted by Keroko

Keroko-chan: Not having tact is even more impractical most of the times.

Truth.

Keroko-chan: You damn well know how to gather simple intel like which fanboy is which. I drilled various ways of gathering intel from locals or finding information when dropped into unihabited territory, or even ways to get in and out of enemy stations into your skull the moment you set foot in the Squadron. Don't tell me you have forgotten those lessons already?

Grandis: And that proves my point even further...


(Oh man, this is great! Grandis, Keroko-chan AND Tesla would surely get along well!)

Originally Posted by Wild Goose

Creator-Goose: I never cared for Arcas' "Holier-than-you" attitude when it came to Grandis, and never really cared much for your "holier-than-thou" attitude and prudishness. I mean, seriously, you called me a pervert for writing "Two Guys and a Bottle of Vodka", which was basically 2 drunk guys and a ghost discussing their lack of lovelifes. That wasn't even remotely perverted. You want perverted...

That said... it's fun to bait Arcas. *laughs* In all seriousness, roleplaying Franz talking to Arcas amuses me. Summation: it's not that I'm keen on the Grandis/Hayate relationship (Franz has reservations on the subject matter); what turns most people off is the self-righteousness displayed by Arcas.

Franz: "Hey, I'm also hurt by his accusations! I am a friend of the aces and a fan of them, and you're tarring me with a paranoid brush!"
Emili: "The universe hates you."
Franz: "Yeah, well, there's a bigger threat to the girls than all the guys on Mid-Childa."
Leena: "Did someone call me~"
Emili: "Aw hell. How'd you know about her anyway?"
Franz: "Sergeant Major told me."
Emili: "How did HE know?
Naomi: "I told Uncle Avery; he helped keep her away from me one time."
Leena: "Mmmm.... delicious Aces...." *spots Mel* "mmmmmm......delicious Mel-chaaaan~.... delicious Emil-chaaaaaaaan and Naomi-chaaaaaaaaans~"
Franz:"Y'all might wanna start running now."

Grandis: Fweh... That's one frightening woman...

Originally Posted by Nightengale

Night: Doesn't it help that the melee-specialist you face are mostly young girls?

Aurion: What does that got to do with this?!

As expected of our resident Hay-

*shot*

I don't see much problem, though I think the speed of the spells others use should be upped... to 200% honestly. Have we ever see Hayate use cartridges to cover any set-backs, even?

Noted. And instead of cartridges, I'll be using something else...