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Old 2008-12-18, 16:35   Link #2157
Haku-Men
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Originally Posted by bladeofdarkness View Post
by the way
how exactly DOES kallen know that
suzaku seemed pretty sure he'd win the fight (and is surprised that he cant)
and its not like rakshata had a chance to inspect the lancelot (any version of it)

kallen thinks that she should have better specs which should let her win
but suzaku isnt too worried about the spec difference
and while kallen has no real way of knowing that the SEITEN is better
suzaku would have a VERY good way of knowing (Lloyd did make both)
and after the beating he took in ep 18 i dont think that its possible for suzaku to get his new albion and not ask "how would this compere with the guren"
suzaku knows the answer and expcets to win
kallen has no real way of knowing and yet she says it

the whole thing just reeks of bad writing IMO which was commen for the final arc)
the whole thing is made evident in exactly one line from kallen (who has no real way to be sure)
and if you think about it logiclly there is no reason what so ever for Lloyd to make the albion LESS powerful then the SEITEN
he could use his new tech to make the guren (which he just got handed) powerful to a level
but he cant make his newly built KMF just as powerful
iit was his tech that gave the guren higher specs after all

i think that from a plot point of view its just a counter for the whole "live geass SEED mode"
they needed kallen to say something to show that suzaku is strong (in the same way that he said she was)
Zero's Requiem was Suzaku top priority not winning. Like he said he was Lelouch's sword and made sure no one got to him and he did that by taking down most of the BK's forces and disabling the Guren, my guess is that he knew he would live regardless who won that's my only explanation to how he survived anyway. Plus the Lancelot Albion was already completed before the Guren SEITEN since in episode 20 Suzaku asked Lloyd to get it ready. Everything else is more or less what you said, bad writing. Since it's unlike Lloyd to not give something extra to the Lancelot (his pride and joy) to overthrow the Guren. As for Suzaku he probably wasn't expecting to battle the Guren in the first place since he seemed surprised when she broke through the barrier.
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Originally Posted by Rising Dragon View Post
The closest I can think of is Gino, actually. After all, suddenly Bismarck knew what it was, despite the fact that when it was first mentioned, Gino hadn't had a clue what it was.

Warning: Flimsy theory ahead:

All I can say is that likely, after Lelouch and Suzaku disappeared for a month, Gino or someone probably talked to Lloyd about the Lancelot Albion and found out its specs, and later he told the other Knights of Rounds about it after the coup. And then after all but three of the Knights of Rounds died at its hands, Gino told what he knew of it to Lakshata and the Black Knights.

Of course, this is only a theory, in no way should it be considered canon.
Well this is Gino we're talking about, his development in the last few episodes didn't make any sense and now your saying he knows about the Albion functions and ratted to Rakshata about it (though that may explain how he got his new Tristan)
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