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Old 2010-01-04, 18:08   Link #1900
Nevflinn
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Originally Posted by willyvereb View Post
Also Shirou DIDN't BEAT Gil in UBW. Look at the scene. He was lucky to keep up UBW that long, catched Gil completely of guard, Nasu made a complete fool out of Gil at the scene+ ignored the difference in physical abilities. And even then he probably could've defeated if Gil weren't sucked in by the Grail. And then he was saved by Archer because Gil can still somehow survive that(well that's for someone who remained standing after most of his body was thorn up by the point-blank Excaliblast).

And perhaps Gil looked down on Shirou deeply. He wanted to completely humilate him by the least effort possible. I don't think that would be the case with Archer. Actually Gil instantly skewered him with GoB as he decided to kill him. But by some thick plot armor perhaps he survived it...but this is another thing.
But if by some thick plot armor Archer too suceed chanting UBW thenprobably he has a higher chance at defeating Gil than Shirou. Still, it's debatable as Gil held back greatly as he looked down on Shirou. It's not the same against a Servant. He holds back but not that much.
Still, Archer at least have a real chance to beat Gilgamesh inside UBW. though not too much if we take out his plot armor.
Dude, don't get so worked up about Gilgamesh. He's the King Of Ham, the villain cliche so drunk in his own power that he uses it poorly. Sure, he was good in Fate and Zero, but in UBW there was no denying how hammy he was.

It doesn't matter how strong you are; if you don't take a fight seriously, you're going to lose. Gilgamesh doesn't take his fights seriously, which is a massive handicap against him. Contrast that with Shirou's resolve, and it's easy to understand why he lost. Nasu could make a fool out of him because he was a foolish character.
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