[Blackbeard D. Kuma]

You have very good points Slayerx. I guess we've both shown that we can argue both for and against Moria and Luffy. Still though, I'm adamant in my view that Moria's defeat was entirely circumstantial at Thriller Bark.

And I absolutely agree with you about the confrontation between Moria and Kuma. Moria may know about Kuma's ability, as in what devil fruit he possesses, but that doesn't necessarily mean he knows what exactly he can do with his fruit. He does consider Kuma to be a big mystery after all. Based on their showings of strength however, I feel that Kuma would be able to defeat Moria in a fight. He's much faster, has greater durability, and his devil fruit is more practical in both offensive and defensive combat.