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Old 2012-06-30, 03:30   Link #966
monir
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Originally Posted by GundamFan0083 View Post
But don't you know, Obama said it wasn't a tax.


Now that it is a tax (according to Roberts) Obama has raised taxes via the individual mandate.

The only question now is--politically speaking--how will this all pan out by November?
Talking point aside, how exactly the "tax" is going to be enforced? There is NO penalty for not paying the tax. When you don't pay your tax, you can go to jail. When you don't pay your tax for this, you go to ______? For GOP, they can still manipulate this particular issue to their advantage with elections on the horizon.

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By ruling it a tax, Obamacare can now be overturned with only a reconcilliation vote of 51 in the senate rather than the required 60 for normal legislation.
This would make it much easier to repeal should the Republicans win this year.
Considering the hatred of the mandate by Americans (in addition to other issues), it is quite possible the Republicans will win congress and the presidency.
They didn't have an issue to run on prior to this, now they do.
It doesn't matter if they're lying through their teeth, perception in politics is nine-tenths of reality and now they have a major campaign slogan to run with "Repeal and Replace."
If it sticks, the Democrats will be out of power for at least 2 years and Obamacare will be history.
Even in a perfect scenario for GOP where they take the presidency, control House, and win majority in the Senate, they will still require a significant assent from the Senate Democrat for a repeal to the definition of that word. Considering how polarized each party is with their respective views, it will be a cold day in hell before this bill is repelaed. GOP will be able to strip away few things and block the funding with that perfect scenario in place (and perhaps starts calling the bill GOPcare), but as far as repeal goes, that's going to be a pipe dream just because majority of these provisions will stay put. There is no way to "replace" them.

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Savor it while it lasts!
I intend to! You, on the other hand, shouldn't get carried away just yet. Remember, we all get sick sometime.
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