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Old 2010-09-28, 13:41   Link #2166
wisteria233
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Originally Posted by reelyanoob View Post
There's Video Evidence - Ep 15 (17:45) while Alto speaks it shows a FLASHBACK of the same ep 7 scene we've been discussing with Alto's downed VF25 inside the Vajra ship. So, It's Canon that he heard both their voices projected at that point in the story. Who sang first seems a side point which I've already addressed.
Well the heat was on him and he might have wanted to difuse some of it. Who cares about logistics then?


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Since Alto himself can't directly interact with fold-waves at all, the fold-quartz must convert the fold-waves into something that he can sense. Logical to assume it works the other way too, given the 3-way conversation they have in the finale. There's no other explanation than Alto's consciousness was projected to the girls via the fold-quartz. And it's not the girls themselves who have the waves - it's the Vajra infection which is the same thing Vajra have in their own stomachs.
He can't produce fold waves the earring does not give the ability to produce fold waves it merely acts like a speaker. Alto never had the ability to communicate with fold waves.

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Brera also senses fold waves and was able to communicate with Ranka in the finale the same way, no V-type infection needed, he just had fold quartz - 2 types - one in his harmonica, and secondly he was part of Grace's zero-time network she build based on fold-quartz - so Brera had to have a fold-quartz implant for this. It is shown to confer the same abilities on Brera as Alto gets while having the earring(s).
Brera is Ranka's brother by blood and was most likely chosen by Grace (like Sheryl) for his abilities so your example fails right there. He didn't need a fold quartz item he already had the ability.

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He can hear the girls singing while flying ANYWHERE around the beautiful new planet if he KEEPS the earring, and the female earring symbolizes his character development (coming to accept Kobuki past). This pretty much sums up Alto's entire reason for existence, why would they change this from where it is at the series end? The movie will end more or less the same IMO.
Except the earring is not his, it belongs to Sheryl, what part about that don't you understand? Or are you trying to say that Sheryl should throw away the only thing she has left of her family for the sake of love triangle, which she is leading in? And Alto would be a jerk for not returning the earring, knowing what it meant to her. Sheryl doesn't really care about its abilities but its symbolism to her. Alto won't keep the earring frankly he really has no reason to, and whose to say that Sheryl won't ask him to return her earring? Alto accepting the earring has nothing with Kabuki, he already came to terms with his past when he decided to protect Frontier, and when he go back home (for Sheryl). That's what his whole conversation with Klan Klan was about, him staying in Frontier was a symbol of that. By that time he had already developed, he didn't the earring to symbolize it. His presence in Frontier and his different opinion were proof enough. In other words nothing will be lost from Alto's character if he returns the earring, as is expected of him.

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Anything could be called Deus-ex-machina by that standard.
Grace's zero-time network she built, which included Brera, gave instant two-way communication using fold-quartz implants. No need for a v-type infection.
Macross compendium on fold quartz says it's a fold-wave emitter :
http://macross.anime.net/wiki/Fold_Quartz
So, the 2-way nature of fold wave communications is Canon, not something they pulled out of a hat at the last minute. The ep 25 3-way conversation is foreshadowed by Brera and Ranka earlier in ep 25, and Sheryl and Ranka in ep 7. Maybe Alto couldn't join in the earlier one because previously he hadn't "let his feelings guide the way" (Kawamori's a hippie!) and he didn't have the fold-quartz close enough to him in ep 7 for the full effect (he only ever wore earring #2)
It was a Dues ex Machina when it first used, it was an item (that was important to Sheryl) that was previously just a memento, until Alto needed to be saved.

And Brera is Ranka's brother he already the ability to communicate with others because of his genes. Also where do you get the idea that Brera had fold quartz implants, he's a cyborg he has machinery in there.

Again Brera is Ranka's brother by blood so him being able to communicate through fold waves makes sense, however Alto does not have the ability, therefore your examples fail.
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