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Old 2008-09-27, 02:43   Link #513
iamandragon
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Originally Posted by Blade_Lord View Post
Hold on. Okay I understand that Excalibur trace version is B-rank, but Excali-beam is an attack. God hand nullifies noble phantasm and attack of B-rank and below. But A-rank and above is an instant kill.

That's the reason why Nine-lives blade Work can work on Berserker . Even though the sword-axe does not have any rank Shirou's using it as a weapon to execute Nine-lives blade work works on him and kill him 9 times.

Why don't Archer uses it then? He might not use it because of Illyasviel. We know he still care for the girl and using Excali-beam would kill not only Berserker but also Illyasviel who might caught in the blast or die because the whole mansion collapse on her.
Shirou is able to use Nine-Lives because he connected his circuits with Sakuras, which allows him to ply into Berserker's memories indirectly like a true master would do to their servant. Shirou is the only one who has seen Nine-Lives, Archer hasn't. They both need to be able to see a weapon because they can trace a replica.
And because Shirou gave up his justice in order to save Sakura, he would not become Archer.

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True but he needed to chant and the chant is long enough for gil to fully charge his Ea and beat the crap out of Archer. Furthermore that is assuming Gilgamesh uses offensive noble phantasm. What if he pull out a shield that is as big as the wall of china to block Archer and start charging Ea after that. Does Archer have any noble phantasm powerful enough to blast through the shield and get to Gilgamesh before it's too late?
Rho Aias is what Archer can use against Gilgamesh. Also, even without UBW opened Shirou was already able to match weapon drawing speed with Gilgamesh--well almost. Archer with more experience in tracing definitely would be able do be better than Shirou in nullifying Gilgamesh's attack. UBW was there in order for mana conservation.
As for Gilgamesh pulling out a shield...he lacks the skill to use a shield properly. He is an owner, but never a user of weapons, unlike Archer, who knows how to direct a shield towards an attack to stop/block them.
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