[Sunder the Gold]

Originally Posted by tusjecht

But this genuinely surprises me, normal moves should not be consuming SP!

Haruyuki said it himself; the power of Aviation turns normal moves like Punch and Kick into special moves.

This may be more than metaphorical. The Aviation ability may specifically state in its rules "using the Punch or Kick attack in conjunction with the Aviation ability appends a Special Meter cost in return for greater effect".

Utan's Elastic Strongarm might work by a similar principle. If it uses SP, it may require less SP to reach out and grab a ledge to pull himself up than it may to fire off an extending Punch.

The 'freshness' doesn't matter anymore when DT still has their ability and they don't.

Try again: DT needs to retain a stolen power while someone is KOed, because if someone ELSE comes along in the meantime, DT would be wounded and tired and they probably wouldn't be.

If DT doesn't have the stolen ability for as long as it takes the first victim to respawn, then anyone else who finds him in the meantime can make quick work of him.

I wasn't referring to turning the tables again on the first victim.

Also, even if Dusk Taker loses the ability once the victim respawns, that's after a whole hour in which DT could run away... or charge up his SP Meter. With a full SP Meter, DT has a good chance of using Demonic Commandeer again as soon as the target becomes available.

Noumi said he killed his brother the long, hard way by killing him each hour, but he only said he stole his brother's ability/armament once.

But it actually could have happened that way, and Noumi just didn't mention it. Dusk Taker could have challenged/ambushed his brother in the UNF as soon as he hit Level 4.

He's level 5 when he challenges Silver Crow, so that's one more bonus into Commandeer.

Well, Pile himself said Noumi's potentially game-breaking potential was due to his horrific scars. This scar investment could possibly stretch the level-potential rule, maybe?

Fuuko says this just doesn't happen, when Haruyuki starts comparing his past to hers.

Unless there's actually simpler way of getting back the armaments Taker stole; by pulling them off his avatar?

Possible. How easily or hard it is to steal items is never explained.

Sulphur Pot lost the Mystic Reins, but those might have been a purchased gift or a random drop. Initial equipment and bonus-bought equipment may be harder to lose.

Items stolen with Demonic Commandeer might be similarly hard to steal.