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Old 2013-04-10, 23:06   Link #1439
aohige
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Moga forced unwilling people into depravity, dooming them to eternal suffering. Any and all argument ends right there.
You're trying to justify something that cannot be justified.

Hitler can't send people to hell. Moga did exactly that. To countless people. He is worse.

The author is definitely not justifying his actions, so you're probably gonna get even more upset if you continue with this hard-on for Mogadick.

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Originally Posted by Anh_Minh View Post
Black rukh is a product of despair. The kind of things that happen when a country is conquered and its population enslaved, which is how the Empire became an empire. You don't need to actually have a use for it. You don't need to be a magician.
No, the term depravity (actually it's a fictional fantasy word in the original Japanese, daten, which is a different spelling of fallen, spelt to mean fallen and turned) is not a real-life status. It's kinda lost in the translation, but it's an actual mystical, magical form of turning evil. It is the "Dark side of the Force". It's not something that can normally happen to anyone suffering, it is a specific, mystical state of depravity.

Being depressed can create black rukh with the help of Al Sarmen and the dark Magi, Judal. But it is not a normal, natural state.
A simple despair of mortal kind does not cause one to fall into depravity, otherwise the slum residents of Balbaad would have been condemned to hell already.
Suffering alone does not cause depravity, it is a state of mind, becoming the embodiment of hate itself (by hating the world and his/her fate)

Like I said, it's a translation loss - it is in fact, a state of mystical qualities. An eternal condemnation of the soul.
Which is why it required sorcery to create the dark farms.

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Though I'd point out it's not that black in Magnostadt - a fair number of Goi seemed quite willing to fight to defend their country, and to respect the magicians (rather than fear them), so it can't have been that bad for them.
Yeah, the few Goi who were NOT thrown into the fifth district.
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