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Originally Posted by Artimus_Prime
So how certain are we that the original older brother had the rinnegan when he had no senju powers?
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It was said that the older brother inherited the eyes. Actually according to
this wikia page he didn't have exactly the rinnegan eyes, but similar eyes.
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Originally Posted by Hunter
Pray tell, when did Itachi or Minato ever outsmarted anyone? They're too strong, they don't need to.
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We can see how smart they are in battle almost every time. It's quite obvious when we see Itachi lecturing Naruto, then saving Sasuke, anticipating moves of his enemies, planning in advance, knowing the weakneses of his enemies. If you just take his last fight against Kabuto it's quite obvious, he saved Sasuke by outsmarting Kabuto. But this was obvious from the start, when Kakashi was barely able to follow his moves, while Kurenai and Asuma didn't even know what's happening (here i'm talking about the part before he used MS). In case of Minato it's even more obvious since he didn't have any advanced bloodline or monsters sealed in him, he had to invent things like the rasengan and his fast teleportation to beat people, and that shows how smart he was. High speed also requires fast thinking, when we see him fighting Tobi he makes his combo-moves so fast that Tobi isn't even aware what happened. For example his combo-move of teleporting to Tobi + cutting off his hand + placing a seal that liberates the 9-tails.