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Originally Posted by SoldierOfDarkness
So if he grabs a jet fighter or a carrier what rank would those be?
I mean since he can literally use anything there is so long as his master can supply the mana (theoretically) eventually he would wear Hercules down and bring his lives down since he'd be using a different weapon every time no?
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We can't complete this discussion because we have no knowledge on how the 'transformation' into a NP works.
Does it scale in accordance to the type of things he hold ( Beretta M9 => E rank, Desert Eagle = D Rank, Anti-Tank Rifle = B rank? ) or is there a set limit to the level of the NP he can turn things to? ( Does Carriers/Jet Fighters become Conceptual Weapons just because he holds them? )
Like I said, if Zero Berserker can upgrade ranks of what he wields as NPs and scales them accordingly... then he's pretty much the 2nd most broken Servant out there. ( Gil will always be the most broken. )
Do note however, that it's not just a matter of transforming normal things to NP. God Hand works like a Conceptual Weapon in the fact that it doesn't just protect, but 'negates' anything below A rank, so it's not just a matter of upping the destructive power.
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Originally Posted by SoldierOfDarkness
Then again though all of these servants have various counters/anti-counters and lancer with his anti-magic weapon seems to be the best counter just like Berserker being capable of countering Archer.
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It's rather ironic really, because Zero Berserker is a natural counter to GoB... but it works the other way round for UBW because FSN Archer can make his NPs explode on contact.
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Originally Posted by Key Board
Well. you have to remember that FSN Berserker was instant killed x7 by a mere copy of a noble phantasm that can't be any more powerful than Excalibur. And that noble phantasm didn't have any special traits like say.. +9 against son of Zeus either. Not to mention that it was copied by someone who just started getting used to his power.
So any noble phantasm that is sufficiently powerful can instant kill FSN Berserker.
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That's why I said 'assumption of Zero Berserker having ONE NP capable of killing Berserker X < 12 times.'
This whole argument is redundant if Zero Berserker possesses something like Excaliblast or Ea, which we know are more than capable of depleting all 12 lives of Heracles in one release.