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Originally Posted by DragoZERO
How is that a rule if its not required? That sounds like a law a dictator would use for his own benefit.
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It isn't required because it isn't a rule. It's a guideline. We are asking people to be considerate in those cases.
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Originally Posted by DragoZERO
To be fair, some source material discussion is to be expected. Or comparing to other series, especially in manga threads where you start to talk about the author's previous works. Its when it gets to be pages long that its goes overboard. But those few cases where they do discuss it, it should be in spoiler tags.
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And you will note that the Spoiler Policy actually specifically addresses each of the exceptions you listed as spoilers that are permitted as long as they're under properly-labeled tags. What isn't permitted is using source material to discuss events that haven't yet happened in the specific media being discussed. That's considered off-topic, and belongs in the thread for the source media.
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Originally Posted by Cats
Would it be possible to create a policy that accomplishes the same thing but doesn't use the vague concept of "spoiler" as the basis?
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That's actually exactly what we have. The bottom line of the current policy is:
If it hasn't happened yet in the anime you can't discuss it in the anime thread. That's an over-simplification, but you could easily re-write the whole thing without mentioning the word "spoiler" once, because it's a policy based around
topic scope, not spoilers. It goes without saying that the goal of redefining the scope of a topic is to control/restrict the sort of discussion that can be contained within, and that's exactly what some people in this thread don't like.
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For what it's worth, it's nice that some people here prefer the old policy, but I can pretty much guarantee that the staff will not go back to that old state because
we've been there and it was too problematic. You can say "you didn't try hard enough" until you're blue in the face. So, if you all are really interested in making constructive suggestions, you have to start by accepting that we're not taking a step back. Any changes that are made would have to represent a step forward that continues to support the objectives of the previous change.
As I've explained before, the current policy has the benefit of providing a clear-cut, objective set of rules that defines which spoilers are and aren't allowed. There is no subjectivity about whether something is or isn't properly labeled. And it resulted in a reduction in both the amount of overall spoilers, and in the risk of having major events spoiled (because we tell people to discuss the novels/manga elsewhere). So I appreciate the simplicity of the "a spoiler is a spoiler, if you don't like it don't click" concept, but that isn't the only concept that matters here.